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why so many PFs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ransom122, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. dobro1229

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    Was comparing Rodman Vs. Shawn Bradley to Chuck Vs. Thabeet as relative comparisons.

    Nobody was comparing Chuck to Dennis Rodman directly. I believe it was Javal_Lon who needed a comparison other than Chuck Vs. Thabeet.
     
  2. javal_lon

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    And more importantly , we'll have more pingpong balls
     
  3. dobro1229

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    I agree about Patterson & Chuck existing together in the post at least. Patterson needs to work on his lower body strength a bit more to hold his ground, but he's closer to the production the Rockets need than Jordan Hill and Thabeet.

    Im actually not opposed to a trade for Kaman, and running two rotations of Chuck/Kaman & Patterson/Scola.
     
  4. HMMMHMM

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    It's the same thing every off-season.
    "You guys overrate Chuck. Too small. Not a center. Doesn't block or alter shots. Offers nothing on offense. Let's play scrub X instead."

    I already expressed my view on how important a shot blocker is, but saying that the Rockets would be better with Thabeet than Chuck is straight up foolish to me.

    We'll see. Maybe Thabeet somehow doesn't suck this season. I highly doubt it though. Chuck is our best option, as is.

    Also, those who think Motiejunas is a center must not seen him play yet.

    He's a tall PF with a back to the basket game.
    His defense has improved some, but his instinct are pretty bad still and he'll need to get much stronger to defend guys in the post.
    He's not much of a shotblocker, nor much of a factor on the boards.
    He might be able to play some minutes at center in the future, but it'll never be the position he excels at.
     
  5. javal_lon

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    Well if Chuck is our best option... Dont b**** later about our sub .500 record or the inability to draft a center via draft... Or if we overachieve and make the playoffs, to get molested by the other Western conference contenders.... All this will cause these so called "Chuckwagoners", to say we need a center...
    Thabeet will allow us to get better position in the upcoming, frontcourt-loaded draft..or he might become a decent starting caliber anchor for our defense.... WIN/WIN IMO
     
  6. flamingdts

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    Then why are you arguing?

    This isn't about Thabeet vs Hayes, it's about a 7 ft center that only blocks shot and nothing else vs a shorter PF that does everything else much much better, not just taking charges.
     
  7. javal_lon

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    I believe the 1st thing I disputed was talk of Hayes at the center spot vs playing Thabeet...What other 7ft center that only blocks shots would you be implying about?...You, yourself said " Yes I would take Hayes over Thabeet."....
    Im just disagreeing and stating why... Something wrong with that flames?
     
  8. HMMMHMM

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    I might agree if Thabeet was a decent prospect. I just don't see it.

    Do we need a center? Sure. But I don't get how you can say Chuck is overrated. Based on what? Nobody is saying that he's the answer to our woes. He's just better than anything we have and his versatility makes him valuable, as you can plug him in wherever you need him.

    Also, good luck running the corner offense (the main staple of Adelman's offense) with Thabeet. :)
     
  9. da_juice

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    We're still running the Princeton?
     
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  10. flamingdts

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    No. The first thing you disputed about is regarding charges vs blocks.

    Nevermind, I hate repeating myself.
     
  11. javal_lon

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    sir , we are talking about the Rockets correct?... in so many words that would mean Hayes vs Thabeet...
     
  12. javal_lon

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    Depends on what kind of success you want... We are a mediocre team made up of undervalued, overachieving players... Though it may make us a respectable,decent team, it still doesnt give us a direction... Our "trading assets for a franchise player" window is just about closed... Playing Chuck at center another season isnt a good nor bad thing...
     
  13. DaDakota

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    True, Thabeet is no back cutter or high post passer - yet.

    He needs work, but the guy is highly intelligen, and is a freakishly tall athletic 7'3" man.

    If the articles about him working out with David Thorpe are true, that the light bulb has gone off, then we need to give him a shot.

    Contract years have weird influences on players.

    DD
     
  14. Prince

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    it's hard to argue with "ifs".
     
  15. HMMMHMM

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    Not sure if this is a serious question or not, but yes, the corner offense is based on a lot of Princeton principles and McHale already said that he "favors the idea of running much of Rick Adelman's offense".

    I got tons of tape of the corner offense, so I'd be willing to put together a quick video displaying the multiple options of it, should there be a demand for it.
     
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    Thabeet has no chance now that DD is behind him.
     
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    Again, Morris is a "Power 3"...
     
  18. flamingdts

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    Jesus Christ you are a wall.

    The initial argument concerns a player that can only shotblock versus a shorter player that could do everything else better. You argue that the shotblocker would be worth more, I'm saying it doesn't. Thabeet and Hayes was an example, it is not the topic. It's not about whether Thabeet can rebound if given time, it's whether you would prefer a taller player who can only block shot or a player that is shorter, cannot block shots often, but can do every other aspect of the game better.

    I can't tell if you're trolling or just really really slow. Either way I'm done arguing.
     
  19. javal_lon

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    If Im slow , then you're stuck in neutral... Everything said, is a reference to those two in particular... Who else would we be talking about?. The topic was about the number of PFs BTW... If it werent for your moniker , I would question your gender... But no need!!! The "flaming" reference enables me to see you have both sides covered...
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Come one now, give the guy a chance, not behind him, just want to see what he can do.

    DD
     

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