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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by chenjy9, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. sammy

    sammy Member

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    Cmon man this is a business.
     
  2. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Unless we got Hill or Lee, any deal with Knicks wouldn't have happened. Walsh didn't appear content parting with either. We could still deal with them with the scrubs we still have on our team, like with Cook for example.
     
  3. J-Wolf

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    Considering KM makes 42 mil in 3 years, I'd say it's a good price for a player playing at that level. DM might be able to work his magic again for this summer's free agent with the extra cap space.

    I'd give this trade a pass. It helps us now and can help us in the future as well.
     
  4. Spooner

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    seriously you guys should chill. Especially if were getting Hill back too. This is a great trade.
     
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  5. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Funny you say that when everyone knows the NBA is a business. If people like Hakeem, Drexler, Garnett, and Iverson could be moved, what makes you think Landry, an undersized backup power forward, would not get moved? Everyone in the NBA knows it is a business and they will just move on and continue their jobs.
     
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    I wonder how many games Landry plays, I wonder what role he fills for the bench brigade, I wonder how many years are committed to Kevin Martin. Did you forget that Mac wasn't playing this year, so he technically wasn't the starting scorer, or are you referring to Ariza or Battier? What part of second fiddle to Tyreke Evans do you have trouble understanding? So it's not even like teams were planning for him more than Evans. If you don't like these condescending replies then you should take a page from your own book before you put others' opinions down. Personally, I get why he doesn't like the trade, but I don't get what you're going on about.

     
  7. pmac

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    I'm not a fan of Martin at all. I think he's a very limited player. He's Chuck Hayes on offense. On the days he is not scoring efficiently not only is he a complete liability on the defensive end he can not create or contribute to winning in any other meaningful way.

    But, it appears the market for Mcgrady's expiring contract wasn't as great as we previously thought. I don't like the deal but It isn't some huge blunder because we didn't have many choices.

    Still, you have to wonder why a young up and coming team would trade such a "great player".
     
  8. sammy

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    Stopped reading right there.
     
  9. chenjy9

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    - Yes he was an essential role in our bench, but he is hardly a player teams would keep if given the opportunity to swap him for a sorely needed starting scorer. Kevin Martin on the other hand, is a prove scorer as the scoring identity of his team. He is also under contract the next 3 years making $42 million, which is a fair price for a SG of his scoring abilities. We saw how our team record is with a backup PF as our second highest scorer, I can't see how swapping that for a proven 20 ppg scorer would not help us.
    - It doesn't matter if T-Mac didn't play this year, his job was still our scorer. When he was our scorer, he didn't play any D, was a constant drama attraction, and constantly missed games was a burden for the team. Trading him for a much younger scorer is definitely a good move.
    - He was playing 2nd fiddle to Tyke Evans because he was coming off an injury. That's what players do when they come back from injuries, they play second fiddle and are eased back into the starting lineup to make sure they don't hurt themselves again. Also, considering all the reports of teams wanting him and the Kings being reluctant to trade him, you get an idea of how valuable an asset he was.
    - I have no idea why you want to attack me. I responded in favor to a poster who clearly did not read my posts.
     
  10. chenjy9

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    Did you seriously just try to compare Kevin Martin to Chuck Hayes? I know the Chuckwagon is filled to maximum capacity, but come on! :rolleyes:
     
  11. AB423

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    I'm sad about Landry leaving and good memories of T-mac, but I am confident of what Morey is doing. Before this trade, one of our weaknesses was SG but now it's filled. This upcoming draft class is filled with a lot of talented PF so I'm sure Morey will draft us a nice PF.
     
  12. chenjy9

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    I feel you man. I really liked Landry too, but unlike a lot of people on CF, I am not so emotionally attached to the guy that I cannot see the bigger picture here and how this trade improves our team drastically in the long run.
     
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    sucks that landry had to go but that's business.

    cant wait to see kevin martin's rockets colored jordans :cool:
     
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    Also, remember what Morey said near the beginning of his tenure? To paraphrase, it was something along the lines that good trades always hurt. Trades like the Gasol steal almost never happen in the NBA and legitimate stars do not grow in bunches on trees. If you are trying to get a good player, it is going to cost you. The cost for us was a spark plug undersized big off the bench and an expiring contract the Rockets and fans have been desperate to unload. I cannot see how this can be seen as a "bad" trade. If anything, it is a very fair trade where Rockets come up on top a bit.
     
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    Yet, nobody thought Landry was going anywhere.
     
  16. pmac

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    I don't see what's wrong with the comparison. Martin is a great scorer. Hayes is a great defensive player. Both are huge liabilities if they do not excel in their role.

    I think Hayes' defensive impact is underestimated and it's easy to hide on offense if you are not very talented. Also, I'd say he has some offensive talent (offensive rebounding and passing) that gets looked over because he's awful at scoring.
     
  17. PlanetG

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    Sad Carl Landry bobblehead is sad... still, I gotta be hopeful for the Rockets future and hope that tonight's (and tomorrow's?) deal works in the team's favor.
     
  18. RoxBeliever

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    Still we've been losing too many games lately, meaning brooks and landry are not enough for us to win. We needed to get a player at a position we desperately need. With KMart's scoring threat, Scola can be freed up to become a consistent post-up threat.
     

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