I can't wait for Yao to attend Hakeem's camp in the summer. Hakeem will definitely show Yao how to play the game.
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That's because Bradley wasn't even in the league in 1990. 36 year old Robert Parish was an all star, played 35 mpg, and posted a career high in rebounding. He was far from broken down.
I didn't say Ewing had to do that in 1990. Did I ? Logic, please. Guess you were talking about 35 year old Parish. Parish went downhill after that. 36 year old Parish was slower than Yao, and of course, shorter. Not to mention there were 25 more centers Ewing faced that year, and he couldn't score 50 on them. It was a pretty wild statement by an Ewing with no merit, and you know it.
And I wasn't talking about Ewing in the mid to late 90's, was I? In fact I said specifically that that was not what I was talking about. Reading, please. All the way downhill to making the all star team at age 36 and again at age 37 and posting a 20+ PER?....right...nice try chweej, but no cigar. No but he put up 40 ten times that year and put up 50 again the following season - in a league that had a lot more elite big men in it than there are now. He put up 41 vs. Mark Eaton. H/Akeem, who was a monster on defense that year, limited him to 33 points on two occasions. That's pretty damned good. Anyway, I'm not talking about Robert Parish vs. Yao Ming. I'm talking about how 1990 Robert Parish was the second best C in the East after Ewing and an All star player, and still a very good defender - not some washed up chump that you imply, who also had one of the alltime great defenders ever playing next to him in McHale that season (also not washed up at that point in his career). Why that should even make a difference in the grand scheme, given the overwhelmingly productive year Ewing had as a scorer that season, is beyond me and shows taht you're grasping at straws. I'm making a different point and have made it abundantly clear, but for your convenience I will repeat it again: the young (1990) Ewing was a scoring machine and a much different (and more effective) player than the one who was taking jumpers and banging in the post with Rick Smits in 1995. When he got hot, he was difficult for anybody to stop, including players who were better on defense than Yao Ming.
"This season the Houston Rockets have been one of the best teams in the Western Conference and Yao Ming has been the league’s most dominant player. At 26.4 points and 10.4 rebounds per game, he is also making a strong case as the league’s best center[/]b." If you have been the league's best player, then how can you not be the league's best center?
I don't know why people are taking so seriously what Pat said to Yao, in a literal sense. I mean its not hard to imagine Pat saying to Yao after Yao puts a putback dunk in his face in the practice: "Yao you are good keep it up". And then go, "But in my prime I would have used my 'quickness' to put 50 on your ass (laugh)." As SamFisher pointed out Ewing was a prime scoring machine in his career and it seems clear to me that he has that desire to try his strenght against Yao when he was in his peak. Its just a good player trying measure himself against the best, and comes the implicit recognition that Yao is the best. Of course Pat is not literally saying I'll put 50 on you. Its more of statement of that he thinks he is equal to Yao and want to know who is better. Well as far as I am concerned Yao will barring exceptional circumstances end up being better, but it would be one heck of match up.
This would be one interesting lineup. Iverson wouldn't give up the ball to anyone else on the 76ers. Will he share it with Yao, Dirk and Carmelo who all need the ball to be effective?
So let's see who has the problem here. My post was: "Ewing couldn't socre 50 on Bradley. He scored 51 on 36 year Parish though. " That one was a reply to the original post. And Those are FACTS, it has nothing to do with your opinion or whatsoever. Then you came in gave me something like "Bradley was not even 1990". How does that effect the fact Ewing never scored 50 points on Bradley? Logic and Reading, Please. In fact, your claim of Praish had a career high at rebounding at age 36 was false, now you try to spin it. His production at 36 at 37 are lower than 35, even lower after that. So what's wrong for me to say he went down hill after 35? Logic again, please. You come to defend some nonsnes by Ewing just for the sake of arguing. You are getting low.
Well said Hiroshi, I want Pat or all the coaches take hard on Yao in training. That's tough love and will push Yao to a higher level.
What a joke of an article. Ewing didn't even pay attention to the games when he was on the sidelines as an assistant coach. His eyes stayed glued to the jumbotron and the Power Dancers. If he couldn't get interested in the games I doubt he contributed much during practice. I think JVG hoped Yao might learn about NBA post play from Ewing through osmosis because Ewing sure as hell didn't seemed interested in actually coaching. Now for Pat's trash about dropping 50 on Yao. I call BS on that too. Ewing's pet move was the across-the-lane hook and the move where he bumped into the defenders chest to knock him back and then shot the fall-away jumper (probably an offensive foul these days). Ewing scored a lot of his points by bumping a guy off before shooting. Probably wouldn't work well against a guy who outweighs him by 60-70lbs and is 7'6". Ewing in his prime was better than Yao but not by as much as Patrick would like us to believe.
It doesn't affect it, and I never said it did. From 1993-94 onwards when Bradley entered the League, Patrick Ewing did not score 50 points over Shawn Bradley. Neither, for that matter, did Yao Ming, Shaq, Hakeem Olajuwon, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, or Wilt Chamberlain. What is your point here Chweej? I can name all sorts of players that Ewing never scored fifty on...from Alvin Adams to Zeke Zawoluk. However he was obviously capable of doing so against Shawn Bradley or even far greater players like Parish, when Ewing was in his prime - that's why I was responding to a bunch of posts that said that he couldn't even score on mediocre players like Smits in his prime, and never scored 50 plus ever. That's dead wrong, he torched pretty much the entire league in his prime (which was in 1990, not 1994 or 1995 vs. Smits) and was the best offensive center in the game that year. He lit up great defenders, big and small, like Robert Parish or Mark Eaton. He lit up mediocre players like Benoit Benjamin. He lit up softies like Brad Daugherty. He lit up badasses like Akeem. He was a great player that year. you're right, his rebounding wasn't a career high that year, I misread the chart; it was the year before though it was still very good that year and a very good defender, and he was an all star player at age 36. He was not a broken down loser like you imply. Rather he played 79 games and over 30mpg, posted very high PER, and anchored a pretty decent defense. Sure, he wasn't at his peak....but he was still among the very top of the league. Lighting up Parish and McHale and the Celtics for 50 in 1990 was no mean feat, and something that very few accomplished. It's not like he was playing Frank Brickowski. Not sure why it's so important to you to argue otherwise. Chweejster, if you could be bothered to read my initial post on this: .....you'd realize that you're the one who who is arguing to be a pest, which is why you joined in the thread, right?
Well, I disagree. Ewing scored 50 before, so I believe that there is at least reason to believe that....should we invent a time machine and find some way to stage this mythical match-up...it is indeed possible that he could do so again. As I said in my initial post, probably not. I would say that whether he was going against Yao Ming or Robert Parish or Shawn Bradley or Ha Seung Jin....50 point games are a rarity. However it is indeed possible that he could do so, and substantially more possible than, say, Mike Gminski scoring 50 in an NBA game. Though still, not likely. I'm pretty sure when you referred to Parish, immediately following my post where I brought it up, you were responding to me. I certainly wasn't responding to you when I made my point, which, for your convenience, I will describe again, and then you can tell me whether or not you agree or disagree, so that we can have a productive exchange: The young (1990) Ewing was a scoring machine and a much different (and more effective) player than the one who was taking jumpers and banging in the post with Rick Smits in 1995. Yes/No?
Now it's getting funny. I didn't even read your post. I knew Ewing had 50+ games, went to basketball-reference.com to look up and took notice that he did against 36 year old Parish. So I made the reply just to show I think Patrick made a BS statement. Now, you started assuming, and made it "pretty sure". by yourself, and you tell me that's my fault? What a joke. Next time, make sure I quoted your post or mentioned your name in my post before you make any assumption. Unbelievable.
My goodness, Patrick was joking when he said he would drop 50 on Yao! "I always told him, though, that if I had played against him I would have gotten 50 on him." Some of the people on this board don't have a sense of humor whatsoever, wonder why there's so much negative vibe even after a win.
Ewing was a good coach. Hakeem would have been better. But, Moses Malone would have been the best. Even though Malone was undersized, he got tons of rebounds. He knew how to get good position for rebounds, especially offensive rebounds.
