From my Chinese point of view, if Wang joined the Rockets, there is a good chance that the Rox games will still be broadcasted in China. It's nothing about communism but commercialization and promoting basketball in China nowadays. It's hard to pass up the golden opportunity to reap profits and the political benefits of establishing Yao as a great symbol of China's economic reform and open door policy. Wang is too minute to neutralize those benefits. A lot of Chinese people hate the bureaucracy in China and they tend to blame it when the fault isn't due. They listen to subjective and biased media then blame the Chinese government for everything it does. In Wang's case, it's especially true. Wang is a man of no character. He's another MoT in terms of basketball skills. I'd hate to have Wang on the team.
I think either Zhi Zhi or Bateer would be nice for the Rockets to have. I think Bateer would mesh better with our team. Regardless, I wouldn't give up much to get either one of them. Maybe Mo Taylor or Posey or someone of that caliber. If that wasn't good enough then forget it. I certainly wouldn't give up Cato.
I would like to have Mengke Bateer, but I wouyld not trade anyone for him other than Collier. Even if we did get Mengke Bateer though he would not play very much.
It sounds that you are an experts about the Chinese media, right? What is the meaning of "listen to subjective and biased media". Just use your goofy brain to think: in a communism country, how can the media stand up and antagonise the government?? If you can read Chinese, you will found that 99% of the media in that period all CONDEMNED Wang ZhiZhi for this BETRAYING the country. I am quite sure a person with the bonehead like you will be necessarily convinced by the media, and regard Wang ZhiZhi as a traitor. Sorry, most Chinese Bball fans have the brain. We believe our judgements resulted from the reasoning. One thing more, we have explicit recognition of the bureaucracy in China, and never view it as a ubiquitous existence. we are talking the bureaucracy of Chinese Bball administration because it is there. It is you who try to generalize the limited existence of Chinese bureaucracy and create a false image of Chinese's recognition of Chinese bureaucracy. Loon, please don't make any comments about Chinese when you have never been to China. And never make any comments on Wang's inharmony with Chinese Bball administration, if you only have the limited access to those ignorant American media. We watched Wang playing Bball until he entered NBA at his 24. We know what is going on there. If you want to be the guru of Wang ZhiZhi and Chinese Bball, SORRY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT!!
Even in CBA, Wang seldom get more than 10 rebounds. Wang has some skills of offense,but his defense really sucks. And dont hope good chemistry happened between Wang and Yao. Wang and Yao are just teammates in National team,just that. No friendship.
lol zenkle. Chinese pride!!! No. Not really. I have been to China. Wang will never be a Rocket during this time.
Hey newbie, before you pick a fight you better know what you are talking about. You call me out for making fake assumption of something, attached with a list of insulting words. Sorry, you just did a fabulous job attacking yourself, for you made a stupid and baseless assumption that I've never been to China, naively used that as a premise to dismiss my comments. Let me tell you something to avoid misunderstanding, I'm a Chinese, born in mainland, educated in HK and USA, and now back to HK. I know what's going on inside and outside of China because of my background. Which part of my post tells you that I've never been to China? You think you are arguing with me when you are actually arguing with illusions you created out of nowhere, and you tell me with a straight face that "We believe our judgements resulted from the reasoning." I don't want to even think about your judgement on the Wang issue and your so called recognition on Chinese bureaucracy, if it's pulled out of your a$$. I didn't find a coherent point in your post, so I don't know what to argue about - you seem to favor Wang, yet you call the western media ignorant. Don't you know that the western media is in the same stance in this case as you do? does that mean you are ignorant too? However, this Wang topic has been beaten to death in the off season and I don't wish to waste my time on it anymore. I'm here just to present my views, not to argue. Take it or leave it. If you are interested on my, some Chinese and American posters opinions on this matter, I suggest running a search function and you'll get plenty of results.
It's really very funny. Some people thought they knew Wang Zhizhi very well, and they posted a lot of nonsense. OK, I don't want to join you guys to discuss this topic. I just want to point out one thing - Wang Zhizhi is not a player with a minimum salary. He signed a 3 year 6 million contract with Clippers before the pre-season in 2002.
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No, Clippler's games are not banned in China. Wang's performance in every game is still followed closely by the media. Wang's relationship with CBA went sour doesn't mean that much. The goverment is not involved with Wang's inccident. CBA officials cann't ban his game.
1) Wang is not a PF, hes a C. Wang cant even master the traditionally slow footed C position. You want to stick him at PF? 2) Ive seen a few games were Wang has received substantial minutes, and he got into foul trouble. He appears to be foul prone and this problem will only grow by sticking him at a position he doesnt play. 3) Wang is a soft player and this is reflected in his less than 10 RPG per 48 min average. 4) Wang is not even remotely quick and there is no way he can keep up with all the good 4s in the West that we will match up with. 5) Wang is a perimeter oriented C and would be even more perimeter oriented at the PF. We already have a player in Griffin that can handle this aspect of the position. Plus the fact that Griffin is a better defender, shot blocker, rebounder, and overall better athlete would say that Wang is not a desirable commodity for us. 6) There are reasons why Wang has been the 12th man in Dallas and LA. Overall, hes not a very good player. We dont need him.
And Mo's a good rebounder? If you are saying Mo's a better rebounder than Wang, that's cool because he is...but if you're implying that Mo's a good rebounder, then you've lost all credibility yourself
Mo's not a great rebounder. However, if we're going to replace him, we need a physical presence, a true PF, not the Chinese Pillsbury Dough Boy.
Thanks for your remind, Fatfatcow... I should always keep the word "manner" in my mind... Happy New Years to every Rox and Yao fans! Despite possible disagreements, at least we have one thing in common
I don't think some of the new Rockets fans have seen Maurice Taylor at 100%, but the guy can take over a game. Wang Zhi-Zhi is not likely to be that type of player ever(in the nba). I haven't seen that much of Wang, but I would have seen a lot more if he was good and played heavy minutes. My best guess is that Wang doesn't have near as much of what it takes to be successful at this level as Mo does. My $0.02
