Why Ron instead of Shane? I always find that when there is more good offensive player on the court, the players are more willing to pass the ball. Sure the bench will be non-scoring factor, but heck, any player that come off the bench will be an energy boost on defense. Battier, Hayes and Lowry.
i would rather see battier comes from the bench to maximizes the defense of the second unit.. coz we already have landry as an the energizer bunny and scorer that fits that role coming from the bench
^^^^^ Not enough shot with Artest, Yao, Scola, and shooting guard Brooks and Wafer (or Barry I assume). And besides we can't play Batman with the Offensive Juggernaught.
AMEN! This is a useless thread, just someone who likes what they saw last game from Von. After the next time he goes 2-8 off the bench with 4 pts there will be a thread saying Von is too inconsistent. Just another spur of the moment thread.
You can't stop Kobe. Why are you using the shane on kobe situation, thats unfair to shane and to good defenders. No one ever stopped Jordan. Ask the suns and warriors how better offense works over defense.
Pfff, Thank God you are not in charge. Von for the most part, is a scrub... A very, very poor mans JR Smith. Talk about taking bad shots at the worst times. Von manages to do it in 12 minutes. 36 minutes would be excruciating....
Anybody actually watching the games anymore or just repeating what they read somewhere else? I'm really starting to wonder based on the Wafer comments. Von Wafer is good scorer. He's more consistent on offense than anyone else on the team with the exception of Yao. His defense is coming along and will only get better based on his effort. The only reason to continue starting Ron over Wafer is because Ron would not accept that. He wasn't happy coming off the bench when McGrady was still playing so you can be sure he won't be happy coming off the bench behind a guy who wasn't even supposed to be in the league this season. One thing is certain and that is Von Wafer should be getting more minutes at the expense of Shane and probably Ron also.
No way, Von is on the bench for a reason. He plays zero defense, and makes some of the most boneheaded plays rivaling Stromile Swift. Adelman uses him perfectly, In small doses...
no, no, no, no... ron brings too much to the table, and plays his *** off. von is a scorer, an inconsistent one at that. better to keep him on the bench as a "spark', i wish we had barbosa
I think Barbosa won't bring us too much, instead Barbosa is very likely to be abandoned at the last edge of our bench because of his poor defense work.
Absolutely not. As soon as you player Wafer starter minutes (and not just as a sparkplug) his weakness on defence gets exposed and bigger and better players can easily exploit him.
only aiming at their abilities, yes. but Barbosa's salary will be more of an upgrade than himself. Wafer is pretty good this season but I don't think he will ask for more than a mid-level to re-sign with us. I would like to get anyone for free...
Another reason for starting Ron is his ability to make the entry pass to Yao in the post. Right now, this duty is shared by Artest and Battier, with Brooks doing it once in a while. Wafer isn't as consistent at it as Ron or Shane. If you did put Wafer in the starting lineup, you'd have to start both him and Lowry, so that you'd have two good passers (Lowry and Battier).
Wasn't this terrible defender starting before when McGrady was out. I could have sworn Wafer was starting and did a decent job. Ron was still coming off the bench before they switched Ron to the starting role. Its funny how most people think he is a terrible defender. He has been average. I must say I was one of the players saying Wafer was horrible and I've seen him play in the past. I must say he has improved tremendously. McGrady wasn't the best defender but he started. Im not saying have Wafer guard the best wing player. We have Battier for that.
Terrible defender or not, Von Wafer shouldn't be starting in place of Ron Artest-no way, no how. Von Wafer has been a surprising find for our team, and he has stepped up in a lot of ways no one expected, and also has maintained that level of play pretty consistantly since working his way into steady rotation. He can be a good scoring option and is a player that the defense has to account for at all times when he's on the court. But he is still a bench caliber player, and even if he were a better one I'd worry that putting him into the starting rotation would stagnate his production and effectiveness. Maybe it wouldn't but his real value is in being a primary scoring option among the second team, and as an occasional game changing role player. Von Wafer is a player we should try to hold on to, maybe he'll improve some more and be an even bigger asset, but even at his current level of play he is an important piece to the puzzle of winning a championship. He is a bench player that can, I think, be a solid contributor night in and night out-giving a contending team like ours the valueable depth that is needed to really win a title. Ron on the other hand... he's a star player and top defender in this league, who, with Shane Battier, can be utilized to shut down some of the most imposing offenses and most talented players in the league while also being capable of big scoring nights. There is no way you stick Artest on the bench for a journeyman/roleplayer type like Wafer.
So you want to put Artest on bench because of his poor shot selection, but replace him with Wafer, who's shot selection is on par with Artest or even worse?
Von Wafer? I think Wafer has a 50/50 chance to stay with the Rockets next season if he stays cheap. If James White shows up in Summer League, Wafer will be gone. If the Rockets wont keep Wafer, Wafer may end up in NBDL or another NBA team but not in rotation. Wafer just isn't very bright. Adelman deserves a lot of credit for playing him (since Barry is sucking) and bearing with his mistakes. Many coaches would have put Wafer back on the bench already.
Sometimes it is not about individual talent but how that player fits in with the team overall. Von played AMAZING as the starting SG, he was under control, highly efficient and the team won. While he is not as good as Artest, he is a better fit for a Yaocentric team. And I agree, thank God I am not in charge...lol. DD
