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Why not Dan Dickau at PG?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Texan69128, Jul 1, 2005.

  1. macfan

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    White Chocolate

    He's definitely not Dan Dickau. Quick, athletic, mad handle, a full 6'1"-6'2", 190lbs
     
  2. aries323

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    WHY dan didkau? thats the real question
     
  3. OldManBernie

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    I actually think he was talking about Jason Williams on the Bulls (former Duke star PG). You know the black and dumb (not that there is any correlation between the two) guy that got into the motorcycle accident that could potentially ruin his career (that is unless the other Jason Williams had an injury that I'm not aware of).
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Give him the Brent Price 6 year deal.
     
  5. OldManBernie

    OldManBernie Old Fogey

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    Leave Brent Price out of this. He actually signed at a low price (despite the long term) and he was VERY effective when he was healthy. IIRC, didn't we get a draft pick from trading him?

    DaDakota would've agreed with me.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    Although my memories of him are more along the lines of "mediocre and disappointing" rather than "VERY effective" -- I'm sold, let's just bring back Brent Price then.
     
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    For the record, Jay Williams, IIRC, asked reporters and others to refer to him as Jason once again.

    OldManBernie: Why a "true" point guard? A true point will make T-Mc and Yao more effective by exploiting mismatches and delivering the ball to them when and where they need it. I do not believe that a point needs to dribble the ball to be effective. He only becomes truly effective when, where and how he passes the ball.
     
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    We need someone besides T-Mac who can run the offense and get the ball down low to Yao either with entry passes or by driving and dishing. Plus Sura had way too much trouble with full court pressure last year. Our new starting PG also needs more quickness to cut down on dribble penetration by the opposing PG.

    If T-Mac is going to play 42 mins/game, he can't do everything all the time. He must be able to pace himself, pick his spots and have energy in the 4th quarter to take over the game if needed. He needs a few more opportunities to receive the ball in scoring position from someone else instead of always having to create his own shot.

    If our new (starting?) SG & PF are above average post passers, or if the new SG can drive and dish, this decreases our need of a "pure" PG.
     
  9. OldManBernie

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    My memories are along the lines of "Price being healthy for a total of 3 games in a 2-3 year span." Otherwise, he really was pretty good.
     
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    thumbs- you have mastered the english language. congratulations. take this conversation elsewhere.
     
  11. SuperS32

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    Alright - having gone to school in New Orleans for a year now and covering Hornets games, I can tell that without a doubt Dan Dickau is the most underrated player in the league. He's a terrific passer, a good shooter, and can carry a slumping offense on his own - and even create his own shot. He eats up "zone" defenses by dribbling through them and then dishing. He'll make a terrific backup somewhere, but probably not here.

    Oh and I can name at LEAST 3-5 guys in the Hall of Fame that are "small and white."
     
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    Please contribute to the thread. Otherwise, follow your own advice.
     
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    Whereas I am glad to have your input on Dickau -- one of several true points that could be of help to the Rockets -- you have missed my point in the "small and white" diatribe. The race of a player has nothing at all to do with his ability. Race is just coincidental. There have been lots of "small and black" stars as well. For example, Calvin Murphy was always one of my heroes on the court. However, I feel compelled to point out that racial stereotyping is intolerable in any venue.

    Now, how did you compare Dickau to Claxton? Which was the better floor general in your eyes? I saw a lot of Claxton when he was in San Antonio, and there was a reason he was nicknamed "Speedy."
     
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  14. macfan

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    There are no players in the Hall of Fame under 5'10". Dickau is not only small, but he's very light and also unathletic. Bob Cousy would not have nearly the same impact in today's NBA. He could perhaps struggle to even make it in the NBA. The game is far more athletic today.
     
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    Calvin Murphy is 5-9, sometimes exaggerated to 5-10. Cousy and Isiah Thomas are 6 feet. Stockton is 6-1. They all would be considered small in today's game, but I'd hate to count up the assists among them. Can you measure heart and court savvy? Yes, I'd prefer to have a PG with size, i.e. 6-4 or taller, but I'd take any one of these guys for my team.

    Dickau is 6-0 and light, I agree. However, he has the ability to slice and dice other teams, and that's the quality I like about him.
     
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    i still don't see why race is an issue here. dickau sucks because welll......he just sucks. him being white has nothing to do with it. there are a lot of crappy black players, asian players, etc. in the nba. race doesn't make you suck.
     
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    So he was pretty good (3 games) except for when he was injured (243 games)

    Hell, even Dave Jamerson probably had 3 good games.
     

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