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Why no hate for a former Spur?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dei, Aug 19, 2008.

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  1. DcProWLer277

    DcProWLer277 Rookie

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    Come on now this is just basketball, not a life or death situation. I know you MAYBE kidding but it still isn't funny. I don't like him either but that's just too disrespectful EVEN for a Spur.
     
  2. stephen94

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    Well, I was being a tad bid sarcastic. I just used that as a way to show the hate I have for him. I wouldn't literally kill him if I had the chance. Just saying, that he injures other people on purpose, what kind of fool can even come close to respecting him?
     
  3. pmac

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    That was my comment.

    The word N***er has plenty of history behind it and, quite frankly, that's all i care about. The word itself is worthless. I've seen people call whites cracker and every time they laughed at it. Guess, what i did when someone called me a spear chucker or jungle bunny, i laughed. Those words aren't nearly as hurtful because they don't have the same history behind them. This is the reason blacks cringe if someone calls them "boy". The word is irrelevant, the history behind it is not.

    ...besides the term "cracker" originated as a word WHITES used to describe poorer whites, not a racial slur. :eek:
     
  4. stephen94

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    partially-QFT.
     
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    What does being white have to do with anything!?
     
  6. DudeWah

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    <br>
    You are absolutely right, the history behind the word is very important. However, as of now, it should have no more bearing. At this point in time, as far as race goes, "legally" everyone has the same rights, therefore we are all equal. We have passed the point at which certain racial slurs are more offensive than others because of history. Although those injustices of the past can never truly be atoned for, amends have been made to make sure they never happen again. So, why should we deem one racially derogatory word or remark more potent than another?? that is your double standard.
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    If people don't move beyond thinking that offensive racial statements against one race are more vile than against another race, how do we expect to move forward in our beliefs as a community??
     
  7. moestavern19

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    OMFG!!!! STUFO RAZIST!
     
  8. DudeWah

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    Btw, if I have offended anyone, I am very sorry.
     
  9. DudeWah

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    and as far as Barry goes, I love the white boy! ;) :D
     
  10. stephen94

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    What does being a Spur have to do with anything. We hate some of the players (and fans). Not the team itself.
     
  11. Dei

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    As much as you'd like to put into it...
     
  12. pmac

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    not me.

    You've been about as respectful as anyone I've ever disagreed with on the topic, especially on the internet. I applaud that. Just because we disagree doesn't mean either one of us has to be rude.
     
  13. agentkirb87

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    The line between funny and offensive is very blurry sometimes. And when we are talking about heckling, usually its not about being funny, its about trying to respond to the guy that disrupted your set while still keeping rhythm. Most comedians will just launch an insult at the guy to get him to stop. I bet with someone as aggressive as Chris Rock, if a white guy heckles him, the word cracker probably comes up more than a few times. Yet when a white guy does it to a black guy its the biggest thing in the media. A double standard exists. Sure, maybe there are reasons that may or may not validate the double standard, but it exists.

    And to the guy that brought up Pastor Wrights statements against white people... thats a whole different level. A black guy saying cracker, or white guy saying ni**er is on a MUCH MUCH smaller scale than what Wright said. And Wright didn't even have to apologize. Guys like Don Imus call those basketball player nappy headed hos and he gets fired from his job. Wright blames white people for AIDs or w/e the **** he said and he basically gets shunned. No public apology, no loss of job or anything of that nature.
     
  14. GuerillaBlack

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    Loss of what job for Wright? What job does he have right now?
     
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    I agree with it, but we are basically getting into a semantics issue almost. The issue isn't that we can't say ni**er but they can call us cracker, but more so that we can't make derogatory comments on them, but on the other hand they can get away with it on us.

    Like I mentioned in my last post, Don Imus gets fired for calling a group of black athletes nappy headed hos. The editor of that golf magazine gets fired for putting a noose on the cover. Yet Wright makes comments about white people that were much worse and nothing. Obama takes more of a blow than Wright does.
     
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    Or some equivalent. He didn't even have to apologize publicly, the media wasn't even calling for him to apologize publicly. He may not have a job, but he didn't get punished in ANY fashion other than people think he's racist. And his comments were much worse than what Imus did IMO.
     
  17. GuerillaBlack

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    Amazing how you don't see the difference though. Wright was at a local church. Imus was on air. Plus, Wright never said white people were the problem. At least I don't remember him saying that. Provide a link.
     
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    I dont know, the Spurs aren't very annoying to me. Duncan is finesse and none of them really annoy me. I love Argentina so I cant hate on ginobli. There not greedy either and they dont speak out a lot. I actually have a lot of respect for the spurs. Whats not to like?
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    Well said... prowler. ;)
     
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    Not to butt in, but I'm not sure I understand your reasoning.

    It seems to me that you ARE saying that you can't say a derogatory comments on "them" (n****r) but "they" can get away with calling you one (cr****r).

    If that's the case, then it seems that you may want one of two things.

    1) The right to call "them" a derogatory term.
    2) The right to not be called a derogatory term by "them."

    I'm assuming you are not pushing for the first option. So then it seems like you are bothered about being called a "cr****r" or other derogatory term, which is completely understandable.

    So this being the case, wouldn't it be better to demand not to be called terms like "cr****r" rather than argue for a double standard?

    In other words, if you're not pushing for the right to use racist words yourself, then why not fight against the use of these derogatory terms instead?

    Just wondering.
     

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