Answering a question with a question? Me likes! There is a difference between calling someone a "cracker" and saying "Hillary Clinton ain't never been called a n-----." There is a difference between laughter and fire & brimstone as well. Maybe a presidential candidate is held up to a higher standard also? I don't know. I guess that's why we don't see Chris Rock running for president. You still haven't answered my question. Do you believe there is a double standard?
you just answered your own question, you have to put so many qualifers in to make it a double standard I don't even know what we're discussing anymore. white people like chris rock, chris rock makes fun of black people, same with dave chappelle, so its a little more complicated than some unknown comedian making fun of white people on def comedy jam
Yes and no. I am not saying blacks should have to take or give it either. I was using this as an example of the double standard which pgabriel is trying his hardest to avoid seeing. I am not wishing I could call a black guy a dirty word and have him sit there and take it. Not my point.
I know. Chris Rock is funny and he does what he does well. I LOLed at your "qualifiers" statement. I bet if Chris Rock got up on stage and started saying "I want to lead a movement to dispose of all the white people in America" people would laugh the same way as if he made fun of white people dancing (a classic). See here is where I know you have nothing of quality to say. You have diverted this conversation so far away from it's origin by asking irrelevant questions. And yet, you STILL haven't answered MY question.
Since we are talking about comedians, remember Micheal Richards calling people N***ers during his bit as a response to heckling? Whether he went over the line is beside the point, but I bet you anything Chris Rock could (and probably has to be honest) called a white guy who heckled him a cracka and it never even made the evening news. There is definitely a double standard there. I'm not saying its undeserved considering the black race got **** on for 200-300 years, but denying a double standard is pretty delusional IMO.
I'm not referring too dirty words. I'm referring to jokes or light hearted comments about sterotypes. Blacks can make fun of everyone including themselves, but when a white person does, people don't know how to take it. The use of the 'n' word is another story. The word should be used more to disenitise it. That is the reason African's use the word alot. To take away the harsh meaning of it. When people are scared to use it when they are talking about the word is what makes it harder for us to move forward.
that statement would only be funny to some people because of how seemingly absurd it is. As with calling white people crackers (which no one really cares about because it has no history behind it) it is so ridiculous that some might laugh at it. If it was flipped, there might be some laughs (mostly from the "this is what i've been waiting for" crowd) but it wouldn't be as ridiculous because there was legal discrimination against them just a few decades ago. Kramer's favorite punchline "he's a n***er, he's a n***er, he's a n***er!!!" wasn't funny to anyone....well...because it wasn't funny to anyone.
what are you talking about?? you picked the fight. the op had to come in here and lecture you on what his real intent was, I don't think you ever apologized. and what have you proven?? that chris rock makes race related jokes. LOL
to be honest, i am a ROCKETS fan, when Brent was on the spurs i didn't like him... why? cause he wasn't a rockets. but now that he is on the rockets... he will become a fan favorite!
hate the game (or the team) - not the player. Unless of course that player did something totally out of line as the opposition (ie cheap shots, etc)
<br> Wow, I can't believe I just read this entire thread... <br> Ok though, for serious...Your posts have been so highly irrelevent to the original issues. You started the argument and never actually finished it. All you have done is twisted the original discussion about the double standard to something else entirely. I have to agree with Mlwoo on this, he's definitely right, as far as sports go (the sporting world, the subject of the original post and the political world are two different entities) there is a double standard. The sports world is more applicable to real life anyways. those comedians and those athletes, along with musicians shape pop culture (and vice versa). That in turn shapes people's behavioral tendencies. Im not sure exactly how old you are and whatnot, but from what I have seen (this is only applicable to the past 8 years, because I can't make assumptions about anything past that time) in school, there is a heavy double standard in terms of race. Its absolutely acceptable for an African American child to call a Caucasian a "cracker". On the other hand, if the Caucasian kid refers to the African American as a _____, all hell breaks loose....As far as your (or pmac's, im not sure) comments stating that calling someone a cracker isn't as bad as saying someone is a N____, you are wrong. Who cares about the history of the word?? I am in no way trying to say that the history is not important or in any way trying to condone any of the acts the injustices that occured, but they just aren't applicable to the use of a word. Quite frankly, any word used in a derogatory sense along the racial lines should bear equal value. However, that's not the topic of discussion here anyways. Here's the point, there is a double standard, but who cares???
How can anybody hate Brent Barry? He's like... nice. Now, if Bruce Bowen were gonna come here, I would go up to him room one night and kill him. He would give us a bad reputation.
