Why MoneyBall doesn't work & other lessons learned

Rockets are typically worse off than that. We usually have both of our top players injured. Hard to win when you have half your salary cap in street clothes.

 

Which teams are you thinking about there?

 

Lakers did make it to the finals without Bynum, but Bynum is their third best players.

 

The Knicks comes to mind. But Ewing wasn't the same impact player he used to be, and it was a weird season with the lockout and the East being so weak.

 

The statement was not about teams without their 3rd best players, but their best players.

There is a difference between a team losing Yao/David Robinson vs a team losing their 3rd-5th starter like Bynum or Derek Fisher.

 

Well he did say the best playerS of teams.

Bynum is one of Lakers' best playerS, just like how Yao and McGrady were the Rockets' best players.

 

It's not even close. For the Lakers, Pau and Kobe would be just like Yao and McGrady. Bynum would be like Aaron Brooks. Odom would be like Scola and Shannon Brown like Battier.

 

Of course, Bynum would be their third best playerS when healthy in my opinion.

But that's not really relevant. He is still one of their best players and he was absent in one of their finals run.

Now when it comes to the best player absent in a finals run, I can't think of any.

 

It was not about the 3rd best player anyway. Sweet Lou was talking to Ashiduh's statement about no team winning with stars injured for a whole season.]

Please look at the conversation again.

It is about stars missing the whole season. Bynum is not a star. He has never been All-NBA or All-Star team. He did not miss the whole season.

 

I find that an interesting line of thought considering that so many people consider Morey to be responsible for the Battier trade.

Morey wasn't GM at the time of the Battier trade but the popular opinion seems to be that Morey was already running the show and was the guy behind the trade.

Now you are of the opinon that a full year later Morey was a rookie GM that wouldn't dare ignore his head coach's wishes.

I'm not sure which one is true but those sure are two very different viewpoints. Do you also believe that Battier was the choice of the coach?

 

That you can actually claim you have given proof that Adelman picked Brooks and that I am "obstinate" for not accepting it as such boggles my mind. Yeah, others can decide for themselves.

I agreed with this:

And to answer your question its not important to find out. But it is important to get clarification from those who claim something is reported when it isn't. Letting that slide is how facts get skewed and disinformation spreads. Yes, I consider that a disservice to this fansite message board. You think its no big deal, huh?

 

Ewing played most of the lock out shortened season and most of the playoffs. He played 38 out of 50 games.

We can't be sure if the Knicks still make the playoffs, if he missed a whole season like Yao, last season. I think missing a C would be very hard on the Knicks. Their interior D would be hard to maintain without Ewing, especially if the backup got in foul trouble.

 

PlayerS? As in multiple? Really? I would LOL at the thought of taking out just your best player. But okay, take the 2 best players off of any team, and please tell me which team is still a contender. In the cases of teams that have similar level players(like Boston), I'll even let you pick which of Rondo/Pierce/KG/Allen to take off.

 

Ahh, if that's the case then I agree. I can't think of any star players absent in a finals run.

 

It was not just a finals run, but the whole season like Yao.

 

lol, we don't even have any stars. title teams need a all-nba team'er. we don't even have an all-star.

and back to topic, any loss of bynum ------is made up by the legendaryness of kobe. kobe is not your average star. just look at mcgrady in the mavs series. he was unstoppable. you need one of those to get anywhere. you can lose a player here and there, but odom/gasol was MORE than enough to win a championship

 

The closest would be Chicago Bulls if I recall correctly. They had an impressive record without Jordan, but was knocked out early in the playoffs.

 

We need height and DEFENSE!!!!! Money ball or not. And a star or two would help.

 

yep, actually that pippen team was arguably better than that new york team. we could have easily been facing chicago in the finals instead of new york if the balls bounced differently a few times.

but pippen is a hall of famer. he was about the same level as jordan.

 

yes. we do need those two badly.

but I think the most important thing is to go draft a star SF to pair up with Martin. When you have a Kevin Durant it doesn't really matter if your starting C is Nenad Krstic