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Why Men Don't Want To Get Married

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by MiddleMan, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. Fatty FatBastard

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    Yea, yea. You and Ron Jeremy were the playas back in the day.

    I'll take my lifestyle over a married one's anytime, and twice on Tuesday.

    And, again. I'm not wholly against marriage. But far too many people get into it because of the fear of being alone, and that is simply wrong.

    Do you not see that? If you were to become suddenly single again, which path would you choose?
     
  2. Refman

    Refman Member

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    Not so fast. I have been in family court and seen women who were not paying child support whisked away to jail.
     
  3. Deckard

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    I've never met Ron, although I've seen him play a man on video. No, I don't see what you see. And I am not sure what I'd do if, god forbid, I was in that position. I DO know that I wouldn't be consumed by bitterness towards women, or treat them as sex objects. If you enjoy your lifestyle, Fatty, that's great, although I've seen you complain about aspects of it here often enough. Whatever floats your boat.
     
  4. rrj_gamz

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    I agree with this 100%...I don't mind paying, but its what she does with it and always asking for more and believe me, I'm at the max and pay a hell of a lot...I would love to have custody of my kids, but unless she's a crackwhore, it doesn't happen...

    Besides, all women are money grubbing b*tches...Oh wait...

    Refman, you make some valid points, but its all text book, meaning, its not the real world...
     
  5. Refman

    Refman Member

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    Explain that to the women I represent who wouldn't be in bankruptcy had their ex paid his child support. They will be relieved to know that their difficulties are not the real world.
     
  6. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    Or just keep with the birth control after marriage too. That would solve a lot of this.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    The more I read yall's relationship threads the more I realize that I am one seriously lucky mofo.

    Carry on.
     
  8. Fatty FatBastard

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    Spoken like a true lawyer...Some men don't take responsibility, I can't argue that, but in the real world, women would be accountable for their actions, men would be able to get full custody and we'd all live happily ever after...

    Carry on...
     
  10. Falcons Talon

    Falcons Talon Member

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    I understand that. So the non-custodial parent (Usually the dad) has to pay for ALL of child's insurance, 1/2 of all medical expenses, and provide 20% of his salary for 1 child(my situation), 25% for two, 30% for three, etc.

    In my situation, my ex is making more money than I am and is asking for more. Fine. While she has been getting tummy tucks, a college education, numerous vacations out of state, and she specifically told me that she was putting the child support into mutual bonds for his savings, but needs more money to buy him his boy scout uniforms, give him guitar lessons, and pay for every little thing he asks for. Mind you, I have a family of of four boys and provide everything I can for them, and now she wants me to provide more for him at her house while taking away from him at my home. Will the judge look at my situation and take all factors into account or just say "tough, the law is the law". Chances are he will just say tough. The way the laws are written, the Custodial parent's(Mother) salary is not taken into consideration when figuring child support. Hypothetically, She could be making $100,000 a year and I could be making $30,000 a year, and legally, she could request a review anytime my c.s. goes up over $100.00 per month, regardless if the child needs the support or not. I have no problem supporting my child. I have a problem being taken advantage of, and because of all the dead beat dad's out there that don't care for their own, I am lumped into that group and I get it stuck to me any time she has the opportunity.
     
  11. Falcons Talon

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    And the sad part is that there is not a lawmaker out there that has the balls to stand up for what is right. It's so much easier to leave things as is and let the system/ex-wive's continue to punish good dads.
     
  12. Refman

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    To all those who think they are screwed because they have to pay child support:

    Come up with a better system, that could be applied in all cases, that would prtect the rights of all parties while ensuring that fathers provide support for their kids.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    You know my rule
    IF she can CHOOSE to kill it. . and CHOOSE to leave it on the fireman's step without any reprocussions
    Why should men not have the right CHOOSe their OUT as well

    Rocket River
     
  14. Refman

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    Oh...you just don't want to pay child support...gotcha.

    Nevermind.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    naaa. . .I want 'Dead Beat' moms to get the same treatment

    Rocket River
    what is good for the goose. . . .
     
  16. Rocket River

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    I find you reaction interesting
    QUESTION: Is asking women to be 'responsible' for their children/actions SO OUT OF THE QUESTION?

    You immediately . .rather than saying . .Yes women should care for their kids too . .

    you immediate go . . to ., . .Oh you don't want to pay child support. .
    [basically saying . .OH! THE SHAME . . YOU WANT THE RIGHT TO WALK AWAY FROM YOUR KIDS LIKE WOMEN!!]

    Rocket River
     
  17. Falcons Talon

    Falcons Talon Member

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    I had come up with something feasible years ago. I'll have to go home and dig through my papers to find it.

    In the meantime:

    1. Take both parents financial situation into account. If custodial parent can afford to support child at her house, and noncustodial parent can support child at his house, LET THEM!

    2. Split insurance cost, just as medical costs are split

    3. Take into account both parents financial situation when reviewing for increase in child support.

    4. Alternate filing child as dependent for tax purposes.

    Joint Custody should be equitable!
     
  18. Rocket River

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    Please increase the chances of GETTING JOINT CUSTODY

    It seem that . . unless the mom comes into the court with a Crack pipe in her mouth and a Needle in her vein . . there is no way in h$% the father gets Joint Custody much less Custody

    Rocket River
     
  19. Falcons Talon

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    The way I understand it, it's in the best interest of the child that the children stay with mom if they are under three, unless like you described in your situation. All things being equal, and even slightly in favor of the father, the best interest of the child still is the mother...according to Texas Family Law.

    Once they turn three, they are accustomed to the every other weekend dad system, so it's in the child's best interest to keep that visitation.

    By the time the child is twelve and can decide where to live, the child is so accustomed to living with mom that a change might not be likely.
     
  20. Jeff

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    I don't disagree that marriages often end in divorce. I'm just trying to undermine the theory that women are the primary reason, which this thread implies.

    The death of the long-term marriage is largely cultural. It wasn't until about a century ago that people married for love. Most marriages were for convenience and men and women has extramarrital affairs. It wasn't until the Victorian era that love figured into the equation.

    Up until, really, the 1960's, women still had little voice in their marriages in America. Societally, that lasted even longer - probably until the early 80's. Women are STILL demonized to a large extent more vehemently than men when it comes to single parenting. We hear ALL about welfar mothers in the press when there is a conservative argument against the entitlement system, but there is RARELY the same outrage against deadbeat dads.

    More than 65 percent of men (20 percent more than women) have extramarriatal affairs. If there is anywhere we as men need to look when it comes to marriage, it is at ourselves.

    There is NO question that it takes two to tango and women, on the whole, are just as much to blame as men are. What bothers me is the undercurrent (hell, not even UNDER, more like overcurrent) of "why women suck unless they are hot and giving me a blow job" in threads like these.

    It doesn't bother me because I'm more sympathetic to women than men. It bothers me because I have a mother who was single once and a lot of female friends, both married and single, who put up with a LOT of **** from the male gender. And threads like these only reinforce the stereotype of the stupid, juvenille, over-testosteroned, jackass male that makes us all look like idiots.
     

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