I wanted to start this thread but couldn't...... Why JJ should start over JKidd!!!!! But seriously, I believe the coaching staff knows what is best for the rox.....unless u have 20+yrs coaching experience at the NBA lvl, and see them in practice. So yea, you may be qualified....
Wow, all it took was one good game from Lowry and the rest of the Rockets offense not named Brooks and Landry putting up crap to bring this about. When Lowry starts getting double teamed coming across midcourt, we can have this conversation again.
there is a fine line between explanations and excuses. im not saying kyle would score more if he shot more, im saying he doesn't score alot because he doesn't shoot alot. everyone tends to make their own inferences off of one statement. im not saying anything deeper then what im saying. does that make sense im also not arguing for lowry to start. if you look in my first or second post on this thread i say i have no idea if he would be a better fit for our peculiar lineup that we start. i just think comparing brooks to lowry individually, kyle is the better pg. im a stathead and i have the stats to back up my stance... to the guy that said disregarding shots he misses when he is wide open is stupid, im disregarding all the shots he makes when he is wide open as well. nobody has to believe me but i would bet that if i went through his game logs, 60% of his threes would be attempted at the end of a quarter or with less then 5 seconds on the shot clock.. and to whoever asked me if i've seen every grizzlies and rockets game for the past five years the answer is yes. and every villanova game the two years before that. lowry is my favorite player, that is why i watch the rockets.
I really like Kyle Lowry A LOT. He clearly provides a lot of things that Aaron does not. However, it is clear to me that on this Yao-less and TMAC-less team, Aaron is more important. Whether he's really a SG or PG is irrelevant -- he plays the PG position. He's at 18.8 and 7.7, which frankly are pretty great numbers for a point guard, and he's a mismatch that other teams have to deal with (obviously he's weaker defensively, so I take that in consideration). A lot of the pre-game previews and post-game recaps I've read have the opposing coach or player mentioning our lightning fast point guard and how they have to deal with him. Also, a semi-objective way of comparing the two is to see which player other teams would be more willing to inquire about or trade for. I could be wrong, but I absolutely think that the market for Aaron is much greater than that for Kyle (i.e., we can get much more for Aaron than Kyle in a trade). Although not definitive, I think it is somewhat telling that coaches and media all consider him more valuable than Kyle.
at the trade deadline two years ago memphis gm chris wallace said he had recieved calls from 14 different teams concerning lowry... a lot of teams are keeping tabs on him for sure.
I acknowledge that he is a valuable player. I still believe that other teams would view Aaron as more valuable.
Brooks starts and gets most of the minutes; for reasons I can't fully explain, Lowry just doesn't excite me. He doesn't shoot well, even struggles to make his freebies. He appears to be a decent defender, distributes well. Tough enough, drives well. But Brooks is just in another league. This team can't absorb any more offensive deficits. With Battier and Hayes in the starting lineup, offense has to come from somewhere and Brooks is one main source.
Check out Feigen's response a couple of months ago to the following question: Jonathan, I've heard that Adelman had a lot to do with the Brooks draft pick. I've heard that he watched him play at Oregon and liked his game and urged Morey to pick him. Is this fact or fiction? Thanks, in advance. (It is a drastic exaggeration. Adelman was well aware of Brooks and had a favorable impression, but he was very much selected through the customary evaluations, including an especially impressive showing in the predraft camp in Orlando. -- Jonathan) Link: http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2009/09/summers_gone_and_the_time_is_r.html
Skillz034 nailed it. Too much is made of who's starting, when both players are getting plenty of playing time and it's based on matchups. The whole conversation about who should be starting is kind of silly.
i foresee this debate b/w ab and lowry will continue for the season, in one or the other. we might as well use this thread as a designated one, instead of creating new threads? anyway, what is ab's stats and performance tonight or for the last few games since we played the lakers? someone pls remind me how high his ceiling is.
AB will remain the starter as long as adelman is here. and he's our best individual scorer right now. we're not going to be playing memphis every night you know. the team is doing well right now and winning games it should be winning. why mess up the rotation due to a few games? different guys step up in different games. believe it or not, AB has been our best player. give the guy a break for having ONE bad game. jesus.
I don't even see what the debate is. Lowry excels in transition. But in a half court set, you need at least one player who can create a good shot for himself and teammates. You don't get that with Lowry, Battier, and Ariza, and neither Scola or Hayes are good enough as inside scorers to make up for that.
Funny thing is... I would almost guarantee that T-Mac, injured, is closer to being an All-Star than Brooks this season.
And he sets them up quite often, especially Chase. I hear ya tho. I'm just more impressed with Lowry as a pg OUTSIDE of scoring of course. Brooks wins that one because he definitely has the green light. But I agree with those who say that Brooks is more important to the team with the current starting line up. I will say that if Chase started over Battier, I would reconsider that argument. My question for people is simple, (strictly about being a pg) if Brooks shot is not falling would you leave him out there? What I am getting as is this, can Brooks lead this team effectively if he doesn't score. That is what he has to do consistently to be better than Lowry as a pg and I don't mean scoring pg. Control the team and setting up players... Oh well... Keep winnin' team!!
He may be our second best offensive player, his 1 assist/week notwithstanding. But Rockets are in desperate need of perimeter players that can create shots in a half-court set. Brooks is far and away the best at it.
Our bench has won more than one game this year so far. KL coming off the bench is a big part of that ... Landry/CB too. I think we really need his spark just when things seem to be turning for the starters.
