LOL Averaging 15/8 when he was supposed to be the best player in the FUTURE rather than right now. NBA GM survey concluded that Mobley will be the BEST player in this draft in 5 years. But he's putting up the numbers and his team is competitive now so Mobley is ahead of schedule. This is a good thing. But leave it to you to be completely befuddled by this.
This has never been about Mobley vs. Sengun. Only the stupid people are trying to make this the issue.
Moving goal posts and clinging to ONE game and ignoring all the others to support your position. You really are pathetic.
Name 1 player that is 6'6 with 6'7 arms that was good defensively? Curry, nash, ray allen, MCW? Just no. We messed up
Mobley is good and will be great get over it. Jalen has high ceiling too but right now looks less impactful thats just facts
In fairness, Sengun does match up better vs Mobley as a quality prospect than Green does.....so that's probably a better discussion,
Cavs have: Jarrett Allen at Center starting 245 pounds Markkanen 240 pounds starting....is he SF or PF? Mobley 218 pounds starting....is he SF or PF? I had Mobley playing SF as a Rocket....not sure about two 218 pound players in Mobley/Wood recreating the Allen/Markkanen/Mobley trio? Guess they could go Mobley/Wood/Sengun. But many here were saying Mobley fills our need for Center (pre-draft). I said we would have to draft a center after drafting Mobley #2 pick. I've always said he does not weigh enough to play center. Only small ball center.
Players like Mobley, Barnes, Wagner and Mitchell who aren't required to be the focal point of an offense and provide defense look better than skill position players who are required to manage an offense. Shockingly, players like Suggs, Green, Cade and Giddey all are struggling or inconsistent. My issue with Green vs the others is that all of those 3 are PGs who just need to develop those skills and they'll make players look better. Green is a SG that is playing next to two black holes.
Green is a black hole himself, one of the worst on the team. That's not something that should be ignored. He drags down both the offense and defense every time he's on the court. If he wasn't playing terribly, he'd look better. It's no one else's fault that he looks terrible.
Looks like it wasn't a concensus among GMs bc Stone chose Green. I believe Green is still the better pick at #2. He is on the same trajectory as many of the great SG/SF including, Kobe/Tracy Mcgrady/Harden. Btw... Weren't you the same guy who wanted to trade for Ben Simmons?
Hey man I absolutely get it. I'm a huge Green supporter. But, let's just enjoy having an amazing rookie class, watch all of these players grow, and still believe in Green regardless of naysayers. Nothing ruins the game more than fans tearing other players down to hype up their own
Green was voted 3rd most likely to be the best player in five years FWIW. Barnes was nowhere to be found so best to take it with a grain of salt. https://www.nba.com/news/2021-22-gmsurvey
I was torn between Mobley and Green, but began leaning Green and when it looked like the Mobley camp didn't want him to be a Rocket that sealed the deal for me. Mobley can be a great player, but I really don't want someone that doesn't want us. In retrospect, I believe not drafting Mobley encouraged Stone to go after Sengun. Getting both Green and Sengun may turnout being a better move then just drafting Mobley. I know it's tough to know given what we might have done instead with our later picks. Maybe Stone would have still traded with OKC for Sengun. In either case, it's still too early to judge the long-term impact any of these players will have on their teams.
If Mobley turns out as great as some here make him out to be he will be out of Cleveland and on his way to LA or a big market team within a few years so why even continue this stupid ass thread about a player that wont bring anything to Cleveland or Houston if he was drafted here....
Some of you just need to stop making excuse, just because Mobley is a far better pick than Green doesn't mean we need to make excuses for Green. For a realistic ceiling, there is no pathway for Green to have an outsized impact from his position. His ceiling is basically a Bradley Beal/Zach Lavine hybrid. That is a great player, but not one as exciting as Mobley/Barnes' ceilings. This is all within the context of a hypothetical ceiling, while ignoring present play in these small 200 minutes of player, during which Mobley (and to a much less degree Barnes) has been by far the best player out of all rookies. We took Green. Let's admit the brain trust screwed up and move on. Support Green as a player and not tear him down unreasonably.
Mobley, at this juncture, is now far and away the best rookie? Barnes' play thus far is somehow many degrees behind Evan's gameplay? Hmm well that's not even remotely accurate.
I agree Scottie Barnes would have been the better choice in hindsight. He was never labeled an offensive guy, but known for his defense, athleticism and having an NBA ready body. Now if he could improve on his 25% 3pt shooting, he will be a favorite for ROY.
