1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Why Isn't Artest used in the Post More?!?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by matty101, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. TMac4Life#1

    TMac4Life#1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,104
    Likes Received:
    15
    Why is Ron not used as a post up option opposite the lane from Yao? His strength should enable him to score from down low rather than do whatever it is that he's been doing in this series. He is not a 3 point shooter, but is a brute. Why not use him as such?

    (I don't think he is very efficient as a post-up player. I think he is his best when in a position to be decisive, either to catch-and-shoot open perimeter shots, including 3s, or to drive aggressively, rather than to slowly probe off the dribble. If he can cut to a low blocks position and catch a pass in that spot, that's fine, but I think the offense bogs down when he posts up in simple turn-outs as much as when he tries to create one-on-one facing the basket. -- Jonathan)



    This answers your question. Now you know the truth :D
     
  2. aussie rocket

    aussie rocket Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2006
    Messages:
    6,096
    Likes Received:
    201
    Does anyone remember the offense we got from Artest at the start of the season?

    Probably due to the fact we had TMac in team and Artest got less attention from the defense, but he was putting up some gawdy offensive numbers (at least in comparison to what we get now)

    He was our 3rd scorer, which he would have been perfect at being, as a 2nd scorer (or a 1st) not so much.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,982
    Likes Received:
    39,449
    He was utter CRAP at the start of the season, the only hot streak he had was after Tmac went out.

    What season were you watching?

    DD
     
  4. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    and yet we have peeps saying having ron would "destroy" guys in the post :rolleyes:

    dude has been a huge thud offensively so far.

    thank god we have others picking up the slack in battier, wafer, scola, lowry, and even brooks for he most part.
     
  5. SuperStar

    SuperStar Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    5,057
    Likes Received:
    70
    Because Artest lacks offensive moves. Bulldozing aint going to work too often.
     
  6. Yao4REAL

    Yao4REAL Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    133
    He got blocked when he go inside...that's because he's not posting up...he's DRIVING!! And he has no lift...that's why!! He needs to post up and back down and drive...that is his strength!! Have you ever seen him doing that?? NO!! It's always Ron with the ball at the 3pt line and then RON drive and get blocked!! He hardly EVER back down at the low post on the left or right side anymore!!

    When he was with the Kings, he did that constantly with Bonzi Well to ****ed up Ginobili....Ginobili can't do a damm thing about it!!!
     
  7. LCII

    LCII Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,609
    Likes Received:
    395
    lol @ DD sayin' 48% is not a good percentage esp. for a wing player.

    but ur still cool DD
     
  8. Tb-Cain

    Tb-Cain Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 1999
    Messages:
    2,722
    Likes Received:
    64
    lol @ LCII dissing DD but still kissing his a** ;)
     
  9. aussie rocket

    aussie rocket Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2006
    Messages:
    6,096
    Likes Received:
    201

    Hmm maybe I need to review my tapes.

    I remember him hitting some clutch shots specifically in a game at Dallas.
     
  10. DcProWLer277

    DcProWLer277 Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,569
    Likes Received:
    20
    Since I wanted to post here I'm just gonna copy and paste:

    The guy can't drive the the basket and is only effect scoring if Yao is getting the ball or he's on the post. Too bad he'd rather chunk up bad shots instead of getting on the block.

    I'm sorry I love Artest's heart and toughness but because of his mind and body I wouldn't resign him. He's just too slow and if you can't go to the basket you're gonna have a low FG%.
     
  11. archinkent

    archinkent Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    3,832
    Likes Received:
    41
    artest does get blocked a lot, but he should yell or something to draw a foul, like tmac
     
  12. ParaSolid

    ParaSolid Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    4,616
    Likes Received:
    1,753
    I think Les should do some 1 on 1 tutorial sessions with Ron. What I think would work real well in Ron's game is that move that Tmac always does in the post.

    All he has to do is crab dribble a couple of times, turn over either shoulder and do the tmac head and shoulder fake, then step through. It doesn't require much athleticism, and works a lot of the time. If they play for the fake, then just launch that fadeaway in the paint. That shot is pretty money compared to all his other "moves".
     
  13. aussie rocket

    aussie rocket Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2006
    Messages:
    6,096
    Likes Received:
    201

    Ha.

    I can barely remember it ever working for Mac....if anything its a case of the 'little boy who cried wolf' type scenario.
     
  14. Dei

    Dei Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2006
    Messages:
    7,362
    Likes Received:
    335
    Aldrige 6'11
    Oden 7'
    Pryzbilla 7'2
     
  15. JLEW1818

    JLEW1818 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,916
    Likes Received:
    3
    I'd like to see Ron drive to the hole more?
     
  16. shortfuse3

    shortfuse3 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Messages:
    3,912
    Likes Received:
    59
    who would he post on the blazers? in order to post you need to have a strength and height advantage. ron has outlaw guarding him who is a total 2 feet higher than him with his arms raised. ron would get his shot swatted every time, oh wait he already does.
     
  17. flashsky

    flashsky Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ron need to be calm.

    If he work as game4 and like Brooks in game5, we'll hace hugu trouble too.

    I like what Ron did in game 1 and part of game4(Feeding to Yao).

    Good judge ,good assist,and Spash to the basket...with toughness.
     
  18. logicx

    logicx Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    760
    Likes Received:
    15
    Might be something to try, but I'm not sure that solves much of anything. If you want post moves/scoring, theres Scola, Landry, sometimes Yao. If anything, it may preoccupy Ron and get him to stop dribbling around all over the place, there's a plus.

    Not sure I trust his hands, though...
     
  19. 3rdRingsAComin

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    14
    Roy guards Battier when he is in there and if Ron was posting there is no way the Blazers would let Roy guard him and risk foul trouble. think before you create a thread
     
  20. Marcus Bryant

    Marcus Bryant Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    915
    Likes Received:
    5
    I think it's ron himself that feels reluctant to attack the rim at the low post, it's his contract year after all. :eek:
     

Share This Page