Why is University of Phoenix a partner of Rockets?

awesome documentary. thanks for sharing!

 

Fixed

 

This is starting to get into Hangout territory, but I think there may be more factors than just the U of Ph being shady the way it's shown in that PBS documentary. I mean, for profits have a lot higher rates of graduates unable to compete in the job market because... well... they tried and couldn't even get into community colleges. I mean we're talking the bottom of the barrel in terms of ability to compete here.

 

Ha good one! I lol'd. I don't know why but I love women jokes. I think they're hilarious. Better delivery without the smiley.

My course load from Devry University is keeping me from working, so I can't be an employer yet. Once I graduate, I'll be an employer in no time, probably as a starting position.

 

Rockets don't care about morals!

its all about the benjamins baby

 

DeVry isn't that much of a step above University of Phoenix...

 

Don't tell that to GlenRice.

 

Well, here's the big difference as I see it (and I work at a university so I'm biased.) Most universities are non-profits. Seriously. The one I work at just barely balances its budget every year. Tuitions are way too high but they cover just about everything from salaries, benefits (which as everyone knows are going through the roof), landscaping, new classrooms, etc, etc. U. Phoenix makes a big old whopping profit and it is designed to maximize that profit like any good business.

Executives at a lot of universities make surprisingly low salaries compared to their corporate counterparts. You can have, say, a provost at a university of 10k students making as little as $200k. If you're responsible for that much at a modern corporation? (e.g. a $200M budget, say, 600 employees and 9000 students) ... good lord, would the real-world salary be less than $500k?

The point of most higher ed is actually higher ed and not money, believe it or not.

I agree with this. People spend their money on all kinds of pursuits. And what's a rip-off to one person ($50 for a bottle of wine) is a wonderful hobby to another. The only problem is if a business, be it razor blades or education, is offering a false bill of goods.

 

Except if you are talking about executives of the football or basketball team.

 

I think because 1 out of 8 or 10 default in their student loans. Meaning the former student will not pay the government (tax payers) back at all.

 

Yeah, it was just last month that college loan debt passed total credit card debt in the US for the first time.

 

Screw that I will go to Everest!! They look so happy and making a lot of money as a medical assistant. Might be looking at 22K for 9 months training!!

 

Best sig ever...

 

The boom in for-profit universities is largely the result of government loans/grants/etc. for "furthering education." Once the education bubble pops (ie, once gov't loans and grants cease), many for-profit universities will likely fold or substantially shrink.

I basically agree with the above poster who said all colleges/universities are degree mills. I went to a public university and now work at a private university, and I'd say the public university is more of a degree mill.

Also, I do like that commercial for Everest Institute they play during Maury with that fat black girl who's basically yelling at you.

 

Lmao all that talk about UoP people and you goto Devry? That isn't exactly any better. Thats like saying a UoP graduate doesn't want to hire a Devry graduate. Yall are on the same level.

 

1st of all I dont post much but this ignorant comment just frustrated me. I really hope your joking otherwise I feel sorry for you if you really think this way about things you know nothing about.

My wife, someone who has had to do everything on her own through her whole life because of reasons that are too big for this thread, recently graduated from UoP. Im very proud of her because its not easy to do with her background and being at home every day taking care of our newborn. There are a lot of women that are in the similar positions that attend the UoP. How dare you put down their very effort to make a better name for themselves and their family.

Id be surprised if you had anything higher than a high school degree and even if you said you did I wouldn't believe you because someone with any kind of higher degree would be smart enough not to make a comment like you did above. And even if it is a joke, I am offended.

 

She was making a joking reference to another discussion.

I hope it works out for your wife. I knew someone who taught at U of Phx more than a decade ago, the scheduling of the courses is more friendly for the schedule of non-full-time students, and that's why some of the students chose to go.

However, the student loan default rate does suggest that, for a good number of people, the return on the investment is not great. Sure, people can end up regretting a BA from UTEP (a friend of mine who taught a state U for years thinks that the relatively loose admissions policy and the relatively low graduation rate at most state U's make them kind of a scam for a good number of students, too) or an MBA from Harvard but it would seem that there is a significnat difference in the probability of people getting their money's worth when it comes to the for-profit school.

 

edit: nevermind

 

They're still a legally accredited institution, and the Rockets are in a publicity and advertising based business. I happen to think they're providing a service that our government and private academia ultimately failed to 100 years ago: no reason there couldn't have been inexpensive and accessible four-year colleges in every town in this country.