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Why is there no videos of Vernon Maxwell passing?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Jul 20, 2009.

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  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Am I lying? you weren't formerly NewYorker?


    I thought somehow you'd be here talking about some the good passing Max did that 1994 season. Oh well, I was wrong. :rolleyes:

    refute what? Maxwell led the Rockets that season in assists. I didn't make that up!
     
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    ok we get it. 5 assists a game is solid for a sg..

    now let this thread die
     
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    Well, there were possessions where Maxwell was guarding him too...you know Stackhouse was a horrible defender...THey both got lit up. But Maxwell made the mistake of insulting him...MJ never backs down from that, and he's torched everybody who's insulted him...would make you think not to do it, right?


    But I did see the videos you posted before on my own, and Maxwell did a nice job on Jordan. But I think Olajuwon being at the basket made MJ adjust his game just a little bit...Olajuwon and Robinson were the 2 players at that time capable of blocking/changing MJ's shots at the rim. MJ wasn't attacking as much, and Mad Max was a good athletic perimeter defender.

    I started watching Rockets games regularlty in the 96 season and I remember pretty well from back then. Didn't have cable back then, so I could usually only watch road games/NBC games though.

    But I have plenty of people in my family that absolutely loved Mad Max as a player, and they told me all the things he did on the court.

    I agree, his attitude gave the ROckets an edge, but sometimes that came as a distraction as well...plus his attitude towards the team if things weren't going his way was horrible too. For him to do that on a title contending team WITH Dream busting his butt for him and the others was not something I would appreciate.

    Sure the game winners were nice (Golden State, Miami, San Antonio 2x, Game 7 3, etc.), his tenacious defense vs. Jordan, and his play making ability was good...but his streaky shooting and his attitude weren't exactly great.

    I don't mind him being a streaky shooter, but don't shoot the team out of a game, when your shot is clearly off. We had other talent on that team...like Dream, OT, Horry, Smith, Cassell, Elie etc.
     
  4. tinman

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    so you admit that Vernon had a good year in 94 and was a good passer too ?
    :cool:

    oh, i'm sorry the CHAMPIONSHIP YEAR. :D
     
  5. tinman

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    We had a pretty decent run with Maxwell as our 2 man. You're acting like Maxwell was Ron Artest in the Lakers series.

    He was not. He jacked up tons of 3s, but those are mainly based off the system. he was DEFINITELY not a ball stopper.

    the year we won the championship, he lead the team in assists. look at that first video I posted.

    Max and Kenny were very underrated as the backcourt duo. I thought they complimented each other well. Plus Sam off the bench.

    What fantastic guard combo that was!

    again, thanks for the research, more people need to do that here.
     
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    You are 10 times worse.
     
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    I know we did well, but things almost took a turn for the worst the next year with Max...which was Artest like in Indiana. I agree, the old Rockets teams did rely a lot on 3's, but we had to until Drexler came along.

    I just think Max and Cassell were good enough playmakers to drive to the basket more, and utilize Horry and OT finishing at the rim. I know they did that, but whenever we were in trouble, we went to Dream and if he couldn't shoot, we settled for the 3.

    We were very close to losing the Suns series and the Knicks series in 94. It was our mental toughness and Dream that brought us back from those series.

    Kenny Smith was great offensively, especially before 95 when he was athletic. But defensively, he and Cassell always got burned by point guards (Harper, KJ, Stockton, Penny) just to name a few.

    But luckily, Max helped us win 1 title, and Dream and Drexler, and our mentally tough supporting cast didn't let his distractions get in the way of our 2nd title. Otherwise, this might be a Maxwell hate thread if we didn't win.

    As far as research...you gotta do that in any topic, otherwise, you'll look like an idiot. Can't go wrong with facts/stats. But you did get to watch him in person, something I can't claim...only a few playoff games and youtube clips.

    But I know he was a distraction, but when he played, he was productive on both ends of the court. Just not all that bright in the head, lol.
     
  8. Dr of Dunk

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    Yup... he sure was productive, BlackKnight... he rocked that year... 38.9% FG and 29.8% on 3's. No wonder he had a whopping 5.1 assists per game - people were begging him to pass the ball. lol. :D
     
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    Interesting fact about Vernon Maxwell that year... nobody on the team shot worse than he did except Matt Bullard and Earl Cureton and Earl only played 30 minutes all year.
     
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    I didn't think Bull would shoot worse than Max...but he didn't really attack the basket for a lay up or dunk hardly ever though.

    I know his shooting was bad (I cringe at those #'s, lol)... he did have his moments in the playoffs and he did play good defense.

    I'm not a huge fan of his, but he was an okay player...but just way to many distractions...would've torn apart any team other than the Rockets, Bulls, and Knicks in the 90's. Those teams were tough enough mentally to deal with it...you saw what Rodman did to the Spurs in 2 years.

    They were productive, but he came back to bite them in the end...although he had a great game 6 vs. Houston...but he wasn't consistent throughout the series.
     
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    Yeah, Bull basically was a 3 point shooter and that was his life. Max shot 3's bad and shot tons of them.

    I never really noticed until last year while looking through stats how bad a FG shooter Max really ended up being for his career. His career numbers were 39.8% FG and 32% on 3's.

    That's basically why Rudy got rid of Vernon the next year - he didn't want it to get out of hand and had given him multiple chances to be a team player. In the end, Max chose selfishness and thus, "bye bye" Maxwell.
     
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    nobody hit more game crazy winners than Vernon too! :D
     
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    Vernon was angry that
    #1 he never got the extension he wanted
    #2 they traded for Clyde

    to him that was the writing on the wall.

    hey, even our favorite Rockets ended their careers in less than fairy tale endings.

    Mario, Sam, Horry, Dream

    JVG, Rudy T..

    Steve Francis..


    Don't act like you didn't root for him DoD! you know you did. And you know you were practicing that Miami or Golden State shot too!
    ;)
     
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  15. tinman

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    I don't think Clutch has banned me 10 times or once like he did you.

    So why are you on this thread again? to keep to rolling on? to be the savior of the McGrady fans? to continue your jabs with me? to talk about Vernon's assists?
     
  16. tinman

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    too much fun of a thread man.
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    To point out that you are a loser for singing the praises of Vernon Maxwell while dissing a current player who is a lot better.

    Your false accusations and pathetic and weak attempts to piss me off show that you have no character and really have sunk to a level of troll.
     
  18. tinman

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    Oh I'm trolling on my own thread right?

    I only point out tracy mcgrady's basketball history to point out why things are they way they are.

    Well disprove my point than NewYorker. I posted that Vernon led the team in assists during our championship year.

    I already pissed you off by simply mentioning who you really are.

    I assume you are hear to not insult Maxwell, but insult me which is what you are attempting to do.

    Oh, I never insulted anyone's parenting skills NewYorker.
    I think the worst I ever did was call someone a fake fan cause they didn't have faith that the 90s Rockets would beat the 90s Bulls.

    But this is you and you keep coming to my threads cause you want more of it.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=136279&page=3&pp=20

     
  19. van chief

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    So did I...
    you could have added "the ball" at the end of the title :cool:
     
  20. tinman

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    there's a similar thread out there about passing, they forgot 'the ball' part too. ;)
     
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