Why is ther NO videos off Tracy McGradys passing??

Can u stay on topic?

 

nobody is blaming sura. he was good enough.

but how the hell can you not blame rafer alston? all he had to do was shoot open shots and shot 32%? how can you not blame luther head? all he had to do was shoot open shots and shot like 9%? or bobby jackson?

production-wise, tracy's fairly comparable to lebron brother in the playoffs. so you're reaching if you think we're blaming those guys b/c they're not paul or KG.

nobody is blaming chuck hayes b/c his production in the playoffs is basically the same as reg. season. nobody is blaming luis scola, or the other guys.

personally, the 3 guys i blame mostly is alston, head, and bobby, esp. alston. he has always averaged 40+ mins with our team and yet his shooting has always been TURRIBLE.

 

My bad, probably shouldn't include Sura, but then again I was thinking about the team as a whole. You can't pin it on any one guy. Those teams had a lot of weak links, just like a previous poster pointed out.

TMac's mentality, Yao's lack of physicality, Head legendary 0fers, Rafer's brick houses, Juwan Howard's.... existence. That's all I'm saying.

 

i feel tracy and yao in that 06-07 series v. the jazz did their part. sure, they could do more, but they did ENOUGH to carry the team. together they averaged 50 pts, 15 boards, and 8 dimes. shaq and kobe average what? around 55-57 pts? so that's good enough in my book.

 

I don't think people are saying he is the 'reason' we lost. I think people are just saying that for some die hard tmac fans, loosing had nothing to do with tmac. Like u posted, he busted his balls for houston. No offense to you man, but my take on your statement is that tmac played as hard as he could and he was the reason we won those games that we did, but the loosing was due to the other players. No way Tmac was THE reason that we lost, but I feel that u have to accept he was part of the reason for those loses.

 

Oops, forgot to respond to the second part.

This is hard logic to contend with. Why? Because I'm not implying that Alston should be Paul, that Head should be Kobe, or that Bowen should be Garnett. They were what they were. TMac is what he is. He's a mentally weak, supremely talented wingman who could have excelled on a mentally stronger team.

Instead, the team was poorly constructed in that they role players couldn't score, and even worse, didn't try and deferred to TMac when he went into prima-donna mode. Recipe for disaster.

 

I never said i dont blame Rafer and Luther but u cant just blame they cause they didnt play better and not blame Tracy for not playing better I mean if hes not good enough to close out game 6 or 7 of that Utah series then u have got to blame him just like you blame the others truth is alot of those players were not good enough including Tracy.

 

Fair enough. I try to avoid "defending" guys because I to come across a little biased to emphasize points. But back when we had that 22 game streak it was guys like Dik, Alston, and Novak stepping up that won the games. That's what the team needed.

I definitely accept that TMac was a reason for the losses. I've been talking about he doesn't play within an offense, he's mentally weak, and he's a chucker. Those traits definitely led to plenty of losses.

As far as "nobody is saying he's the reason we lost", people constantly remind us that TMac never made it to the second round. What's the point in touting that fact? Were we all proud that Yao never made it without our current team?

 

I'm out for the night. Peace guys.



And I keep telling myself I won't get into McGrady conversations. Some of these threads are like dangling cheese in front of a mouse.

 

tracy and yao put up 29 pts each in game 7 man. what else do y'all freakin' want? both to get 35+? sure we all love for that to happen, but the others got to pick up the slack sometimes.

in that game, tracy and yao combined for 58 pts, 11 boards, and 13 dimes (of the team's 99 pts).

seriously? people may not like blaming role players, but seriously?

yea, tracy could have scored more in the 4th, or yao could have grabbed more rebounds... in an ideal world. but 58 of the 99pts? if you told me that before game 7 started, i'd be ecstatic.

 

You are right, those that keep stating the fact that tmac has never made out of the second round is just wasting time. I guess loosing can be due to a lot of different factors, opponents, teammates even general team atmosphere.

I think a reason for them to keep stating the fact is that they are disappointed in tmac. Someone of his ability and physical gift should lead a team deep into the playoffs. I guess i am as well...i felt the kind of stuff that happened last season really pissed me off.

 

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”

"Teddy Roosevelt"

 

Except the knock on McGrady is that he's not trying.

The above quote is more appropriate to defend hustlers like Hayes, Scola, Battier, etc.

 

his effort does waver during the reg. season, it's hard to deny that. it'd be great if he brings it every night.

but in the playoffs, he plays just as hard as anybody. if you watched the playoffs, you'd see that.

 

Yes, he is on the TEAM right?? but its HIS FAULT that they lost...even though stats prove otherwise...

He is on the team, therefore he deserves some criticism, but he doen't deserve all the criticism.

 

I saw him throw away countless big defensive stops by trotting up court and immediately launching jumpers. Maybe if you took off your TMac can do no wrong 3-D glasses when you watched games you'd see that.

 

Ron Artest has a terrible series against L.A.

Is it his fault we lost to L.A?


Frankly, it seems to me that every t-mac thread attracts the usual t-haters. We've all seen the Toronto video a bajillion times. Why is that the only clip used to dismiss the guy?

I wonder what t-mac haters will do when T-mac is not a Rocket anymore, probably find another player to scapegoat.

 

I saw those glasses on the store shelf the other day. They were right next to the "T-Mac can do no right" 3-D glasses.

 

dude i never said he played a perfect game. but if you're questioning his effort in the playoffs, i really have nothing to say.

 

anyways, im doing what i'm trying NOT to do w/ antisonic. go around in cricles. peace.