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Why is ther NO videos off Tracy McGradys passing??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TMaC MVP, Jul 20, 2009.

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  1. Blake

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    Um, before you tell me to STFU, here's a bit of sage advice...actually know the facts before you talk trash. He quit, he admitted it was due to frustration over not having the ball more. it's FACT. nothing to do with the knee...not that game, my friend.

    And I don't blame him for our playoff losses. I don't think it's his fault. I do blame him for quitting and about 20 other things that I have already posted about in other threads.
     
  2. tinman

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    And for topic. The people who make the Tmac videos are the people who enjoy watching him play, so apparently that's what they want to see (dunks, jumpers).
     
  3. Dr of Dunk

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    Coming from the guy that glorifies Rockets losers like Vernon Maxwell...
     
  4. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Honestly, you have to be a real jerk if you're incapable of appreciating a guy who can average 6 assists while dropping 25+ points and grabbing 5 rebounds.

    His assists average and his asst/to ratio combined are better than almost all, if not all, wingmen to ever play the game.

    It is a shame that you have to hate on the guy so hard that it blinds you from seeing the things he does so well.

    Granted, there are valid criticisms of T-Mac, but that doesn't make his passing ability a "so what?" story.
     
  5. tinman

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    HAHAHAHA.

    close your eyes, this "loser" is going to seal the Rockets first championship.
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  6. tinman

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    Ssshhhh,

    Blake,
    you might get censored by the North Korean Wing of Clutchfans.

    I mean if anyone makes a thread about Vernon Maxwell, people can derail and debate about his failures in his personal life.

    But if anyone disagrees with Tracy McGrady's playoff failures then that's WRONG!!

    When I make a Maxwell thread, I know the usual suspects are there to talk about his personal life. I can handle that there are different opinions about him.

    I guess some people can't handle the heat.
     
  7. Rockets2K

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    I stated my reasons for coming down on you three

    YOU DERAIL EVERY SINGLE THREAD ABOUT MCGRADY.

    Other fans have a right to discuss the guy without you three running them out of the threads with your crap.

    you go ahead and think I give a crap about mcgrady, you would be wrong, I give a crap about quality of discussion at a board I help moderate....you dont like it, you know where the door is.
     
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  8. Depressio

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    While I'm all for the T-Mac hate, I have noticed over the last few seasons that his passing game is actually really good. I admit it.

    He has amazing potential... but it's sad that all it is, is still just potential despite being in the league for so long. Yeah, he's been a great scorer, but still has some potential that he can scratch at (via passing)... not that I'd want to invest in that potential.
     
  9. AntiSonic

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    It's just too bad that he'd rather pull up and immediately launch jumpers than do that.
     
  10. coolthunderz

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    Thank you so much for coming down on those 3
     
  11. Depressio

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    He's been quoted as saying he'd prefer to distribute. He almost got two triple doubles this past season (and he did get 1).

    His personality sucks, he might just be lying for the cameras, but the triple/doubles don't lie. He's got the potential, he was just too much of a sloth (and hurt) to realize it, I think. He's still a sloth until he proves otherwise, but the potential is there.
     
  12. AB#0

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    Yup he gave up. Tracy doesn't want to win and is a big loser because he needed knee and shoulder surgery. The worst player of all time. He got lucky when he finished 8th in MVP voting and led the Rockets to 22 straight victories and the playoffs. He was faking when he was crying when the Rockets were eliminated from the playoffs, he plays with no heart.
     
  13. tinman

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    I post facts.

    I guess it's fine that everyone likes to blame the other teammates too. I guess i should conform to that thinking too.

    why don't you pull up EVERY SINGLE THREAD about McGrady and calculate how many times I post on them.

    Start from the beginning of last season to make it a fair sample.
     
  14. Sajan

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    uhm...so if a player (hypothetically) drops a triple double in a 2OT western conference game and he loses..he had a bad game? wth?

    i dont see how people always want to put a direct correlation between being a good player and winning. KG didn't win jack squat in Minny but i doubt anyone has the guts to say he was a bad player..but he goes to boston and wins a championship. same kg isnt it?
     
  15. tinman

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    He won the MVP and made it to the Western Conference Finals against the Lakers.

    Don't delete this one R2K!! don't hide these facts !
     
  16. Dr of Dunk

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    Open your eyes and post a video of him in the Rockets' 2nd championship.

    Hypocrite.
     
  17. larsv8

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    Thank you very much.
     
  18. tinman

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    he was a non factor in the 2nd championship.

    don't see me throw Mario Elie or Chilcutt under the bus right?

    but it's fine to throw JVG under the bus when one of the Rocket teams with certain player(s) losses.
     
  19. t-mac4bigmac

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    Here's my take on Tmac's passing. He is the passer he is today all because of JVG. When JVG first took the reins as Rockets coach, he took responsibility to mold Tmac into more than just a super-scorer. If you watch game highlights of Tmac as a Rocket under JVG, his good passing ability is evident in every game.

    In the 2005 Dallas series, the primary play on offense was the high screen and roll with Tracy and Yao, which relied heavily on Tmac's jumper and passing ability to get the ball to a rolling Yao. JVG took advantage of Tracy's (as well as Yao's) height and length, and this play mostly resulted in either Tracy hitting a open outside jumpshot or Yao getting an easy layup near the basket. You can debate the fact that Rockets lost the series, in which most of you will say was Tmac's fault, or JVG's fault, lack of star role players, referee corruption, etc. Whatever the reason, you can't say that Tmac is the sole reason for our playoff failures.

    In later Rocket seasons, Tmac's passing ability is what raised the level of play of his teammates. With teams which had players like Luther Head, Chuck Hayes, etc. Tmac was the player got Chuck an open layup or Luther an open three. JVG's system centered primarily on Tmac and his ability to get other teammates involved in the offense, and that helped us win 50+ games.

    Many of you guys would prefer to have an Orlando Tmac (sky-scraping dunks, 40+ point games, 21 win season), but I would take a '04-08' Tmac (good passer, perfect compliment to Yao, 50+ win seasons). The ONLY thing that has held him back is INJURIES. That is the bottom-line of the Tracy McGrady situation.

    In terms of how Tmac and his passing applies to the future of the Rockets, it is unclear at this point. We no longer have JVG's system here in which Tracy thrived in, and it seems Tracy hasn't adjusted to Adelman's offense either. Under JVG, Tracy was the facilitator on offense in which he had to hold on to the ball and make sure all other 4 guys were at the exact spot they were to be. Adelman's system is drastically different, which relies on ball movement and player movement. There is an unpredictability to Adelman's offense, in contrast to JVG's ordered and sometimes predictable offense.

    So while Tracy's passing ability is great skill, there is a question of whether his style of play fits into Adelman's offensive system. No longer can Tmac hold onto the ball waiting for a play to develop, since Adelman expects quick decisions and movement. However, IF Tmac can play at a higher pace and not be a ball-stopper, his passing would be a valuable asset for the Rockets, considering that we don't have a playmaker outside of Kyle Lowry. But this prospect is highly uncertain considering that Tmac has played the same way for 4+ years.
     
  20. NotInMyHouse

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    McGrady = Individual accolades.
     
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