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Why is sympathy for Islam so common on the political left?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Jan 15, 2015.

  1. SamFisher

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    Why is hatred of brown people so common on the political right?

    Case in point - hysteria over the Ebola-carrying ISIS Mexicans who rushed our borders back in November.

    That's like the Heisenberg blue for wingers everywhere, helpfully combining Africans, Arabs & Mexicans into one convenient outrage suppository.
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    Spoilered because there are so many Bible verses which are supportive of slavery...

    Leviticus 25:44-46
    As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

    Exodus 21:20-21
    “When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

    Ephesians 6:5
    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,

    Colossians 4:1
    Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven.

    1 Peter 2:18
    Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust.

    Titus 2:9-10
    Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.

    Exodus 21:1-36
    “Now these are the rules that you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’

    Colossians 3:22
    Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord.

    Leviticus 22:11
    But if a priest buys a slave as his property for money, the slave may eat of it, and anyone born in his house may eat of his food.

    1 Timothy 6:1-2
    Let all who are under a yoke as slaves regard their own masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be reviled. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful on the ground that they are brothers; rather they must serve all the better since those who benefit by their good service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these things.

    Luke 12:47
    And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating.

    Exodus 21:7-11
    “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who has designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has broken faith with her. If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights. And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.

    Isaiah 14:2
    And the peoples will take them and bring them to their place, and the house of Israel will possess them in the Lord's land as male and female slaves. They will take captive those who were their captors, and rule over those who oppressed them.

    2 Chronicles 8:8
    From their descendants who were left after them in the land, whom the people of Israel had not destroyed—these Solomon drafted as forced labor, and so they are to this day.

    2 Kings 4:1
    Now the wife of one of the sons of the prophets cried to Elisha, “Your servant my husband is dead, and you know that your servant feared the Lord, but the creditor has come to take my two children to be his slaves.”

    Deuteronomy 21:10-14
    “When you go out to war against your enemies, and the Lord your God gives them into your hand and you take them captive, and you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you desire to take her to be your wife, and you bring her home to your house, she shall shave her head and pare her nails. And she shall take off the clothes in which she was captured and shall remain in your house and lament her father and her mother a full month. After that you may go in to her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. But if you no longer delight in her, you shall let her go where she wants. But you shall not sell her for money, nor shall you treat her as a slave, since you have humiliated her.

    Exodus 22:3
    But if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.

    Exodus 21:7
    “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.

    Revelation 13:9-10
    If anyone has an ear, let him hear: If anyone is to be taken captive, to captivity he goes; if anyone is to be slain with the sword, with the sword must he be slain. Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.

    Genesis 21:13
    And I will make a nation of the son of the slave woman also, because he is your offspring.”
     
  3. Anticope

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    Keep moving those goalposts, it's what you guys are best at. Even if he did say whatever stupid thing it is that you want him to say about radical Islam, you would still b*tch about something else that he did or didn't say. Let me ask you something: do you believe Obama is secretly a Muslim?
     
  4. MojoMan

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    All people have brown skin of various different shades, ranging from very light to very dark, liberal racist orthodoxy on this topic notwithstanding.
     
  5. MojoMan

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    I set the goal posts with the title of the thread and my discussion in the OP. Pay attention and try to keep up.

    And no, I do not believe that Obama is particularly religious at all. Not Muslim, not Christian, not any religion. The only thing that he appears to worship is himself.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    That's not really answering the point - why is it that the targets of your ire are almost uniformly towards the browner end of the scale?

    Muslims, Obama, the overwhelming existential threat of the New Black Panthers, other than global warming denialism of the "hey it's cold out, global warming is false!" variety - it's difficult to find any variation from your themes here.

    Of course, you're not just anti-brown, you're pro fat old puffy pink xenophobe - you know what they say, Mojo, if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything! ;)
     
  7. MojoMan

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    I am a brown person and so are you.

    The idea that we are divided into different races based on variances in our skin pigmentation is patently absurd. There is only one race, the human race.

    And people who believe otherwise, are in fact "racists".

    If the shoe fits....
     
  8. SamFisher

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    Pigmentism is your curse bro.
     
  9. Dubious

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    European Christians have pretty long history of colonizing Muslim land. You might expect them to be mad about it. (and Hindu, and African and native American and Chinese and Aborigines)
     
  10. MojoMan

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    In the centuries before that, Islam established its own pretty long history of "colonizing" European land.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    That's an ironic statement considering you had not a single piece of evidence in the ridiculous beliefs you are spewing.

    The lefts doesn't defend radical Islam. That is a lie. The left doesn't think the reason we shouldn't bomb the entire middle east to oblivion is become people are pure of heart. Where do you get this nonsense? You watch too much right wing propaganda.

    The left believes in human rights and freedom. That everyone, including Muslims have a right to that. The Right believes only white Christian men have those rights.

    That's the difference.

    I am not against fighting Terrorism. I am against in fighting it in a stupid way. Like giving weapons to extremists to fight another enemy. That's what we did back in the 80's. All these terrorists got their training on how to fight from the CIA - you can trace it all the way back to our involvement in Afganistan.

    Stop the stupidity. Focus on modernizing the Muslim war - that's the long term solution to things.
     
  12. Amiga

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    Presidents and world leaders have always been careful about grouping Islamic terrorist actions to Islam or the Muslims population as a whole. There is a good logical reason for that, just think about it.

    Here is a few quotes from Obama:

    "All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil."

    "There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know -- that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion. The exact opposite of the teachings of the al Qaeda organization, which is based upon evil and hate and destruction."

    "Americans understand we fight not a religion; ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil."

    "The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them."

    "I've made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It's a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people."

    "The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.
     
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    SamFisher is pretty much the most racist poster on this board. I'll post some examples later.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    I can't wait to see it - I have a special affinity for the chicken punching of Kim Jong Un's b*stard half brother posting from a Baden-Baden Boarding School.
     
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    Which is why what's going on is simply a matter of payback... An on going cycle of sons paying for the sins of their fathers. Which makes it hard to pick a side.

    You're going back way in the early history of civilization aren't you... When Europe wasn't Europe. But there's a reason why many Italians and Spanish have dark skin. But European countries like France have still been oppressing people in this day and age. They were making 14 countries in Africa pay a colonization tax (slave tax) up till last year. A lot of these 3rd world countries are still 3rd world because of the oppression of the western world.
     
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    I believe that Christians can think that everyone has sinned, but having sinned doesn't make you an inherently bad person.
     
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    SamFisher -- you're better than this. This is truly out of line.

    negged
     
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    You're such a terrible poster. It's cringe worthy.


    Obama condemns Paris shooting

    Obama, speaking from the Oval Office, condemned the “cowardly evil attacks” on satirical publication Charlie Hebdo that reportedly left 12 people dead, saying they reinforced why it’s important that the United States “stand in solidarity” with France, “just as they stand in solidarity with us.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/obama-paris-newspaper-shooting-react-114029.html#ixzz3P1n4N7VK


    President Barack Obama on Wednesday called the assault on the office of a French magazine in Paris a "cowardly and evil attack" that underscores terrorists' "fear" of free speech.

    Speaking to reporters before a meeting with Secretary of State John Kerry, Obama said that the attack on satirical news magazine Charlie Hebdo "underscores that these terrorists fear freedom of speech and freedom of the press."


    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pa...-shows-terrorists-fear-freedom-speech-n281351
     
  20. MojoMan

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    You are right. I should have been more specific. I posted this reply to a similar post in post #80 of this thread, but since you apparently missed it, here it is again:

    What Obama has routinely failed to call out, and still has not done so here, is the link between radical Islam and these terror attacks. By linking these, he would put pressure on Muslims everywhere to hold these people to account, which they have routinely failed to do.

    And usually he will not even call these attacks terror attacks. Hat tip to Obama for finally do so in this instance. He and his administration have used all sorts of evasive language to describe past attacks, as I am sure you are very well aware.

    And even here, we see him failing to take note of the elephant in the room, which is that nearly all of these sorts of attacks are instigated by Islamic radicals, which learn their terrorist mindsets from their earliest years in many of the schools in Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia.

    And in that, he continues to demonstrate sympathy towards these killers and the cultures that they come from.
     

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