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Why is sympathy for Islam so common on the political left?

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  1. MojoMan

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    Trump get is right. We must stop being politically correct about the issue of radical Islamic terrorism, or it will only get worse. Political correctness serves to enable and protect these vile killers. Everyone has to see that now.

     
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    He's like a dumb Frank Underwood.

    Watch the beginning of season 5 of House of Cards. It's actually relevant.
     
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  3. Amiga

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    stop being politically correct is a synonym for being dumb in trump case; with that, he can dumb us all down and it's working mighty well, especially among people of hate
     
  4. Amiga

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    and fear
     
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    What does this even mean though? Please tell me what actions come from "stopping political correctness" around the issue of radical jihad?

    Because it sounds like to me he's saying we as a country need to ban Islam and those who practice it.

    But please tell me what this actually means.
     
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    If only we had stopped being politically correct about terrorism, the London attack would have never happened. We've seen how effective lack of political correctness is at combatting terrorism.
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    World leaders - "Islam is a evil religion"
    Muslims across the world - "Well, I guess that means I should leave Islam peacefully and not make any loud noises in regards to western leaders ******** on my religion"

    ^^ The dream world scenario that the likes of ATW and other conservative posters live in.
     
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    Real impact of "stop being politically correct" would just be less people avoid using certain words. Would have no actual impact on the problem.

    What trump and his supporters really mean is we need to start putting all muslims into the same box and that we need to treat them all like threats.

    There's a Facebook meme right now that compares muslims to the orcs of lords of the ring and has quotes like "the majority are peaceful" and "they want a better life" and stuff like that. It's clear what this group wants.
     
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    Not being politically correct would be saying that 5% of Trump supporters are deplorable racists with an insular lifestyle but we've seen what happens when people actually say that out loud.
     
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    Exactly but I think they should be pressed to vocalize exactly the end goal of what they are trying to accomplish. It would be like saying we need to go to the bar but not wanting to say you purpose is to get drunk. I see what you want, but they are essentially being PC in nature at the same time.

    They don't want to say they want ethic cleansing because they know that's not PC, but exactly the type of end solution you would need in order to fix the "problem" they see and are vocalizing.

    But they don't want to actually solve that problem though. That's why it's just easy to blame liberals and pick fights over the most minor parts of a terrorist attack. Can't have the guts to discuss real solutions.
     
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    Many of them will say in private conversation that we need to "make the whole area a parking lot." Just kill them all. If they didn't want to be associated with terrorists they should have "stopped" them somehow, spoken up etc. you'd be surprised how honest they can be in one on one conversations. Most at a minimum will admit they don't want any more muslims allowed into the United States.
     
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    I am sure leaving is rare, but can Muslims in the US leave the religion without fear of death? I honestly don't know the answer to this question
     
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    Most Muslims who are raised in the States would probably see no reason to leave their religion because they have a higher probability of being surrounded by moderate educated Muslims thus creating a feedback loop that suggests that their religion is peaceful and full of sane rational individuals. Also, there are other reasons why people don't leave the religion they are born into besides fear. Many enjoy the close nit sense of community. And many are in a situation where they might not be threatened by physical violence, but they might be shunned by their family if they leave the religion which is also the case for many Christian households.
     
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    Last night I had drinks with some Neigbors and the issue came up and two of them came to the conclusion that this was Obamas fault because he's still got some Muslim brotherhood alliance and apparently Hillary's campaign was funded by terrorist groups.

    I just put my head in my hands and said "just don't even go there".

    The problem is the conversations hardly ever advance to the point of actual end solutions that would vocalize what they really think instead of creating an enemy out of liberals as an alternative to giving into the desire for violence, but I do know it's there. Ted Cruz himself was the one who continued to use the phrase "carpet bomb them all". Everyone has that crazy uncle that doesn't hold back. So I know it's there, but I have to believe there are some that when pressed to actually face the facts of what ethnic cleansing really means, would think about the problem differently.

    Funny random thing though ... even my right wing Neigbors said that Trump is an idiot that just needs to shut up.
     
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    It's not sympathy for Islam. It's opposition to religious intolerance.
     
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    Even the Saudis, of all people, call these people "takfiris". If you, as a member of the US government, so much as hint that these attacks and attackers had anything to do with Islam, you are hit with accusations of "Islamophobia", bigtory, or racism.
     
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    Jesus. Everyone who thinks this is about Islam is ****ing stupid. These are political organizations resisting western activity in the Middle East. ISIL is a rebel government that operates in mobile camps and in the cities they gain occupation.

    Morons.
     
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    The radical muslims must laff their guts out.
    I imagine their jokes about it would be salty.
     
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    No, you are.
     
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    Why are they attacking Shi'ite Muslims in Iraq? Why are they attacking Coptic Christians in Egypt?
     

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