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Why is sympathy for Islam so common on the political left?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Jan 15, 2015.

  1. MojoMan

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    Most people on the left believe in the goodness of the human heart and in true love, just like the Hollywood movies preach. But the human heart is not good and true love does not conquer all, certainly not the way that they want to believe that it does. And the Terror War being waged on us by these Islamic radicals proves it. This whole War on Terror thing is very upsetting and very confusing to people on the left for this particular reason.

    It is all about the War on Terror.

    Many on the left want to focus on building their socialist "eutopia," but these pesky national security issues and the War on Terror keep getting in the way. Not just financially, but ideologically. How can this be happening if the human heart is good and love conquers all? They have no answer, so they just keep insisting that no such problem exists.

    The left also wants to defund our military to a substantial degree and resents the focus on military solutions to problems around the globe. Apparently they believe if we insist that there is no problem that requires military action, then we will not have to bother with any of that. But reality keeps on rearing its ugly head and contradicting them on this, even on Barack Obama's watch.

    And what is the number one problem from a global national security perspective? Is there any doubt? It is Islamic radicalism and the War on Terror, which is being waged almost entirely by Islamic radicals. The answer by many on the left appears to be to insist this is not a problem or that it is just not happening to any noteworthy degree. To maintain this defense, they have to defend the Islamic radicals, with all of their killing, and all of their routine, many times daily, human rights abuses.

    Which explains why Obama did not show up in Paris to the March last week.

    Their ideology around this is bankrupt and false. They do not know how to reconcile the War on Terror with their beliefs about the goodness of the human heart and love conquering all. It is a fairy tale they believe in, I know. But they are not ready to let it go, because that would mean accepting that they are not as good as they want to think they are either. And that is a stumbling block to them.

    So, they are in a profound, self-absorbed state of denial. And they continue to defend what for all the world appears to be pure evil in order to maintain this cocoon of denial. It is all very sad and very dangerous, to say the least.
     
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  2. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    I guess they like conservative religious values
     
  3. Northside Storm

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    because when dirty wars are waged, torture is conducted, civil liberties are suspended--elements of the political left will fight for whatever group is marginalized, even those that nobody wants to sympathize with. See the Skokie march.
     
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    Northside Storm Contributing Member

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    what?

    Try two wrongs don't make a wrong.

    You're painting a psuedo-narrative of mass of people with so little relevant data.
     
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    some sympathize with the innocents caught up in the fight. others just see them as a casualty of war statistic.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    So are Muslims more marginalized vs marginalizing others (including their own)?
     
  7. Mr. Brightside

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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html

    I'm independent and usually look at facts and numbers.

     
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    bingo!

    *snort*
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You're ignorant and you watch too many movies, that's why you believe that.
     
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    Whatever dirty wars committed by the west does not erase the fact that hundreds of millions of people are marginalized in Muslim Majority countries because of a backward interpretation of a religion.

    Yet all hear is people deflecting responsibility and blame from the ideology onto other things.
     
  11. Hustle Town

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    I think the OP's commentary is sound in many ways. I think worldview does have an enormous impact on your political ideology - whether you think people are basically good or not will affect almost every political stance you have. Many conservatives have a Christian worldview that contrasts deeply with the secular rational worldview of many liberals. This fundamental difference must be recognized.
     
  12. Major

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    Wait - which are you saying is the one that believes in the good of the human heart?
     
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    You are too young to be such a lost, sad soul.
     
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    Obama was not going to show up in France because their uppity azz's don't show up to go to war... If he would have went _ that would have been the 1st thing conservatives would have complained about.
     
  15. Mr. Clutch

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    Only if he saluted with a frappuccino
     
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    Christians do not believe that people are basically good, while secular rationalists do. I feel like that's a well-known distinction.
     
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    I can't speak for the belief systems of other people, but my Christian faith is predicated on the inherent goodness of humanity. Our bodies are ephemeral but our souls are eternal. Some of these souls give themselves over to God. Some do not. It's a choice.
     
  18. Hustle Town

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    How can you, as a Christian, believe that humans are inherently good if you believe also in the concept of sin? It's a contradiction.
     
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    As a Christian, I agree with this post. Christians believe in the ideas set out in Romans, that all have sinned and fallen short of God.
     
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    I think it is mainly because the Left tends to be sympathetic towards groups who are the target of racism or general bigotry, as Muslims commonly are.
     

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