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Why is Samsung the only company with Replaceable Batteries for higher end phones?

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  1. Space Ghost

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    If seen this happen ... 0 times.
    And who goes to the mall anymore?
     
  2. Angkor Wat

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    LOL if you are worried about the NSA tracking you. Don't flatter yourself :p
     
  3. Svpernaut

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    When a Samsung can take 1/10th of this abuse. Call me.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    The NSA doesn't care about you. You are not a significant enough individual to be cared about.
     
  5. Bandwagoner

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    That is exactly what Space Ghost WANTS you to think.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    I have other problems with Samsung phones other than cheap build quality. Samsung's entire philosophy on designing and making phones is not something I agree with. Pack as much gimmicky features into a single device as possible is not always a great thing. Touchwiz is a mess(relative to stock android and ios). I also hate how Samsung is trying to push their own services on an android platform when Google services are way more polished. The only way I would ever buy a Samsung phone is if it's a Nexus. Even then the arguably made the two worst Nexus devices(Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S).
     
  7. Angkor Wat

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    Seriously? Umm I don't know, maybe people who still like to shop physically, and not just online everything.
     
  8. OmegaSupreme

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    gave away a samsung galaxy nexus a few days ago that was sitting in my glove compartment for over a year. picked up my nexus 5 immediately after and wished the galaxy nexus materials and form factor carried over.

    although plastic, that phone definitely had a premium feel to it. had a comfortable weight and it's teardrop form made it a pleasure to hold.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    hmm... I find the Nexus 5 way more comfortable and well built than the Galaxy Nexus. Have owned both. I love the soft touch material on the back.
     
  10. Svpernaut

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    I think it is just the fact that once a maker gets on top of the world, they rest on their laurels. Like you said, they just throw "wow factor" at devices and don't really polish things. I feel Apple has been the same way with iPhone (and iOS) in general. They have their stronghold, so they simply aren't bold anymore.

    Plastic phones can feel like like high quality. Before I bought the Lumia 900 I thought the best phones would always be metal. I loved HTC because they have been the best builder of metal phones for years, but the uni-body poly-carbonate that Nokia now uses in nearly every one of their devices has wowed me.

    I've had a Lumia 900, 920, 928 and 1020. I also have a Lumia 521 which is an off-contract phone I keep as a backup. It has a removable battery, and it's build quality simply doesn't compare to the uni-body builds - even the lower end Lumias like the 600 and 700 models. Of course the Lumia 52x can be had for about $60 off-contract - but it just shows that design is important.

    My Lumia 521 is a great backup phone - I use it mainly for Wi-Fi sharing when traveling, but no way I could use it everyday after using nicer Lumias.
     
  11. ChankMcStank

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    Custom ROMs, brah.
     
  12. Svpernaut

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    If you have to wipe a brand new phone because the OS they are putting on it to begin with isn't what you want... you're buying the wrong phone.
     
  13. Yung-T

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    "Cheap and terrible". Please elaborate what is cheap and "terrible" about it, haven't had one person I know complain about the build and materials.

    Again, your "feel" is completely subjective, come up with facts and what is terribly cheap built and influences the quality of the phone.

    I don't know of one person that ever had this happen when dropping their Samsung. The back isn't like the simple slideable you had with phones 10 years ago. You have to open them on several locations to completely open the back. They're not made to go off easy, a fall won't make the back fall off.

    Sorry, but I never accidentally hammered my phone or used it as a shield in a knife fight. The extreme situations described in the video never happen, plus no Samsung is damaged after a fall from moderate heights.


    Conclusion of this thread:
    The people that heavily critizice Samsung come up with lies, subjective impressions or simply pull out stuff out of their asses to make the company and phones look back.
    You guys are victims of marketing and try to justify your purchases by trying to make the competitor look terribly bad, while not having one real fact or situation, where the replacable battery is really harmful to the phone.
     
  14. Yung-T

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    PS: I guess the glass screen of IPhones is such a great gimmick and increases the quality&experience by a large margin for you guys compared to tto the "cheap" material Samsung uses.

    Well, how do you feel after the screen completely breaks after medium impacts and falls? Had this happen to numerous friends and it's a widespread problem online. The Samsung screen doesn't break as easy as it is way less static and mroe flexible.

    Sometimes more expensive doesn't mean better quality, this is a prime example.
     
  15. Svpernaut

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    Wrong. I've owned several Samsung phones, and their build quality simply isn't on par with other top tier phones. Period. Review after review states this as well, the only reason they are tech blog darlings is they fit as much hardware as they can in to them. I've used Galaxies and Notes and in my opinion, their build quality isn't on par with devices like the HTC One, Motorola Droid, Google Nexus line or the Nokia Lumia line.

    No one has said that Samsung phones are junk, just that they could do a better job of making their phones feel like premium products. Now if you're a person that throws an Otterbox on your new phone, sure their build quality isn't as important to you as someone who prefers to not use a case on their phones. When I pay $500 for a phone, I want to be able to see it and feel it - but that's just me. So I stick with phones that have a premium build quality, not just premium specs.

    In the end, the basis of this thread was asking why more manufacturers didn't allow for removable batteries. The answer is easy, unibody design is better in regards to build quality and durability. If you want a removable battery, you have options - the others aren't for you.

    Either way, spare batteries are a thing of the past now that portable chargers are about the same price and can charge more than a single device.
     
  16. Yung-T

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    ^^
    Know, I don't throw Otterbox on my phone, still have no issues after it fell down a few times.
    And as I said, what's the good of build quality if your only way of showing the Lumia is safer are videos where people throw hammers and knifes at them, it never happens in reality.

    Know you're no Apple fan so that part is not for you, but for other posters. What's the good of the "superb quality" and expensive glass screen when it breaks immediately at medium impact? I rather have a screen that stays intact, even if it's "cheap".
     
  17. Svpernaut

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    The videos of the abuse to the Lumia is just showing the extremes... you know, to get YouTube views, that's the point. Even indestructibility aside, I like knowing that my phone won't break if I happen to drop it, or sit on it, or if I drop - and then accidentally kick it (which I've done a few dozen times to various phones over the years). I've actually dropped my Lumia 900 in a full glass of beer, and it was just fine thanks to the uni-body design.

    To me, it is no different than buying a car or any other product that I want performance and build quality from. I could buy a $50,000 car (think domestic sports sedans) that is fast as hell but skimps in other areas so it doesn't corner well, or it has a lot of road noise, or sub-par interior, etc. Or I could buy a $50,000 car (like a German sports sedan) that is just as fast but us all wheel drive and has impeccable interior.

    The bottom line is Samsung sells the most phones. They sell phones with amazing specs, but they aren't even in the top three of handset makers in terms of build quality in my opinion. HTC, Nokia and Motorola have them beat and others like Sony, LG and Apple are at least on the same level. It is frustrating because Samsung has the revenue from their mobile division to make the all-around best handsets on the market... and for some reason they don't. Meanwhile, Nokia has lost money hand over fist and makes build quality a top priority - as they always have.

    Just imagine a Samsung Galaxy with the build quality of the HTC One. What Galaxy owner wouldn't want that? Samsung could do that, but they don't.
     
  18. ChankMcStank

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    I put a custom AOSP ROM on my Nexus 5. What's your point? I have a choice on which version of Android I want, whether it be a custom ROM with tweaks and mods, TouchWiz, Sense, etc, or a stock Android ROM. I haven't even used a stock ROM more than a couple of days on my phones until I install a custom one like Slimbean/Kat or CM11. That includes a Nexus 4, Nexus 5, and Note 1/2/3.
     
  19. ChankMcStank

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    I wouldn't. My Note 3 is light and slim enough and feels like a phone in my hand. I can't imagine a metal Note 4 and how heavy that would be. I have the option to change/remove the battery and have external SD storage for my pictures, music, and Android ROMs that I would like to flash. I have no issues regarding build quality because it is not falling apart in my hands. My Nexus 4 is fragile as hell being all glass AND having a premium feel. My Nexus 5 feels light and soft, yet, also feels like a premium phone. I put a case over it and don't feel it at all. Isn't this the case (no pun) with most phones, even the premium feeling ones? We are, after all, talking about Otterboxes in this thread.

    One complaint I would have is the glossy-ness of the back cover of the older S and Note phones. Other than that, don't really care.
     
  20. Scionxa

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    Let me know when a Samsung phone is able to obtain a GPS lock under 5 meters. They arguably have the worst GPS antenna's on devices. No, I don't mean the ability to obtain a lock (although that was a huge issue on the GS1, GS2, and the Gnexus), I mean the accuracy.
     

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