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Why is Rafer still on this team?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket_Man, Oct 10, 2007.

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What should the rockets do about Rafer?

  1. Trade Him

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    22.4%
  2. Cut Him

    10 vote(s)
    1.9%
  3. Keep Him

    396 vote(s)
    75.7%
  1. moses22

    moses22 Rookie

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    i dont think ryan bown could make 190 threes in a season and yeah he shot bad from two his floater was off last year but he shot pretty good from three point range for a person people said shouldnt be on a nba roster
     
  2. Nice Rollin

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    yeah, but the thing is we need him to do more than just shoot spot up threes. it'd be nice if he could finish around the basket, but he is what he is...thats why we got mike james back...

    On this team and with this roster, he has no business playing 35+ mins and shooting the ball more than 9-10 times
     
  3. blazer_ben

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    Rafer has been a standout all training camp. rafer gives a mixture of a
    good " Pure" point guard to go along with good scoring combo guards like james and francis.

    Rafer was allways gonna thrive. even last season when he was at he's best when was running the floor looking to creat. he is a excellent passer and is very, very good at taking care of the rock. thats the kind of things we'll see under adelman.
     
  4. moses22

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    he did do more than shoot threes he had 5.4 apg,1.5 steals,3.4 rpg and low TO's he did his thing last year maybe he isnt tony parker but to me he had a good year and since you bring up mike james i dont remember him doing anything last year
     
  5. lustdog

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    Man, I didn't like Rafer much when he first got here. I lived in Canada, and didn't appreciate his professional attitude much back then. But, hey, this guy proved to us that he does have a heart to win, and gave the best of his effort to be a loved player. I gave him my love as a fan. I'd say if it's not absolutely necessary to make room for others, or there is a perfect trade to elevate rox' game, keep him!!
     
  6. pillage

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    I must admit that I was definitely on the, lets somehow get rid of Rafer bandwagon. I didn't think keeping him was insane, just not doable with the additions and his arrests.

    However, my stance has changed. He has played well (even though it is just one game) but I think he will fit into Adelman's offense well. 4 PG's is still a bit much but at this point keeping him is by far the best option.

    If he fits perfectly, then great he's a starter and we keep him and go on to further glory. At the very least he is going to be an important rotation player. Even if that's the case he should have great trade value in Feb. Bottom line, KEEP Rafer.
     
  7. Acedude

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    By topping the Levono Stat chart, it only exposed the Rockets' discrepancy of talent between the starting 5 and the bench.

    Definitely not a good thing.
     
  8. Hayesfan

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    This was discussed to death last year... the Lenovo stat does not do on-court off-court as part of the equation. So having a horrible back up has nothing to do with it. It's offensive and defensive efficiency between team mates.
     
  9. Nice Rollin

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    It's obvious that he was our third scorer last year and we needed him to score efficiently. i'm not asking him to be tony parker. we were asking him to be our thrid scorer (which is asking too much). I'm just saying, I dont have a problem with him on this team b/c we're not longer asking him to be that third option.......... there are some major flaws in his game offensively...There are some average guards who can occasionally take it to the basket and finish. You dont have to be tony parker. Asking a player to shoot better than 37% from the field is not asking for tony parker.
     
  10. Angkor Wat

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    I just don't want Skip shooting more than he is suppose to shoot. I saw a couple plays in our first game where we would bring the ball up and shoot the three right away. I hated seeing him do that last season. The only time he should shoot is when he is wide open. Other than that, just keep passing to his teammates.
     
  11. Yetti

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    The answer to the question is because he is the most experienced Point Guard on the team, who possibly can be convinced to be a team player. :p
     
  12. Yetti

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    Slight change he should only shoot the ball not only when he is wide open but when the ball is passed to him in that position. Meaning he is set up to shoot not him making the decission. We already have many shoot first scorers who will carry the load.
     
  13. BONIERO1576

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    His abilities aside, there is absolutely no good reason to try to move Rafer right now. Cut him? we're over the cap and he is owed about nine mill over the next two seasons. Trade him? for who, every GM knows we have to make cuts so why not just force our hand, wait for us to make our roster cuts, and then try to deal with us. Rafer is not a superstar, but he is far from a cancer on this team. We also have a pretty veteran group so when the injuries start mounting up I for one will be happy to have him. If not, bury him on the bench and let him wait his turn. Everyone acts like its gonna be a disaster if we don't trade him by the start of the season but the situation is hardly that dire.
     
  14. smoothie_king

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    On Tuesday's game RA had the second highest 3 pt fg% for 50% behind novak's 66%

    I really don't know why we signed Mike James...

    Last season RA had better numbers than James and Francis plus he played in the playoffs and obviously had more minutes than either james or francis
     
  15. JSub

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    Its been mentioned here already, but to reiterate again, you guys can't base everything off ONE PRESEASON GAME.

    Rafer still needs to be moved. I'm glad we didn't trade him for trash. Morey needs to wait until a good deal comes along. Until then, showcase his skills and increase his trade value. I wouldn't mind him as a 5th-6th option in the offensive as long as he's here.
     
  16. stq

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    MJ can shoot better than 37% but he can't pass, he can't run the offense,
    Luther Head can shoot better than 37%, but he doesn't have the handle and get abused on the other end of the court.

    So yeah, if you are asking for a PG who has a high A/TO ratio, who can run the offense effficently and also play defense, who can shoot spot up 3, and who can penetrate at will and finishes around the basket, then you are bascially asking for an all-star caliber player. which is too much to ask for.

    between MJ and rafer, I will still choose rafer as our starting PG. MJ with his long range shot can play the Luther Head role for us off the bench.
     
  17. JSub

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    Rafer shot 37.5% from the field last season. But since he shot 50% from the arc in our only preseason game, we can expect him to continue his amazing shooting display for the duration of the season. Please disregard Mike James as a bad pickup although he has clearly been the better shooter throughout his career.
     
  18. smoothie_king

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    RA led the team to 4th place in the west and francis didn't lead the knicks anywhere and neither did mike james so RA really deserves a little more respect in my opinion

    the hiring of Rick adelman might have actually been a step backwards

    we lost to the jazz because t-mac isn't a defensive specialist and neither is yao ming
     
  19. dedong22

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    if we could trade him for a good ball-handler who can also shoot, then i'll trade him... otherwise stevie and MJ are just not good ball distributor, they are simply good isolation players...
     
  20. JSub

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    Don't make me laugh. Rafer led the Rockets to the 4th seed. Completely disregard Tracy McGrady's contributions and leadership. Its Rafer! Our leader and defensive specialist!! MVP!!
     

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