BTW, Spiegel, you're free to check my post history to see if it is only about Lin. I have created a few threads recently also. You can check them out. Not particularly smart, not particularly fascinating, but certainly not Lin-centric. And I actually checked out your post history enough to say that you're definitely not a LOH. You are biased, and loud.
Answer me this: Why is last season's 25-game sample irrelevant and not indicative of anything, while this season's 12-game sample is substantive proof of Lin's limitations?
This really bothers me. Clueless people coming on this board and talking about racism that have no idea about Houston, the Rockets, or basketball. Hey 2012'ers go look at some Rafer Alston or Matt Maloney threads if you want to see some hate. Rockets fans are hard on underperforming point guards regardless of race.
Btw, when I say that certain people are prejudiced against Lin, I don't mean only in terms of race. People may be prejudiced against him because he's a Harvard grad, as opposed to a Kentucky grad. Or maybe because he wasn't drafted. Or maybe because his SAT II Math score was way too high for an NBA player. Still, prejudice is prejudice. And prejudice is the only explanation as to why some people ignore a 25-game sample in favour of a 12-game sample.
Spiegel has an agenda. he is a big hater on yao as well. best thing to do is add him to ignore list (just like what i've done)
The 12 game stretch is more recent. The 12 game stretch occurred after an injury. Teams have had a chance to scout him. Looking at all the data on Lin together does not paint a good picture for LIn. It is also more than 12 games. He tailed off at the end of last season as their was more scouting on him. I like the long term potential for Lin. He has great penetrating skills. Teams are adjusting and giving him more space. He either needs to get better at shooting to make teams pay for it or become even more aggressive penetrating and learn to deal with teams stacking the paint on him. I suspect he'll develop a better outside game and get his game back to close what he was doing last year once teams have to worry about him more when he is away from the basket and when he doesn't have the ball.
Funny, you make an argument against yourself, and a convincing one at that. How many Harvard grads have succeeded as NBA players versus Kentucky grads? How many undrafted players have become NBA stars versus drafted players? In that framework the "25-game sample" represents an anomaly. Is that prejudice or a reasonable conclusion drawn from available data?
Let me tell you why. It's because of this ****... <br> <br> <br> This is why people are so sick of Lin and especially of his fans.
Seriously because he prefers Lin over Lowery? There are so many who prefers Lowery over Lin, but I don't see anyone say they hate Lowery for it.
Lin's play at the NBA level is the best evidence we have, and for the majority of Lin's NBA starts, he has ranged from decent to record-breakingly amazing. The problems with his pedigree are just background issues, and they are made less relevant due to the fact that he almost certainly faced discrimination in the recruitment process due to his race. Bottom line? Let him play for a season or two.
What you meant to say was: because of his fans, this is why people like me are so sick of Lin. Lin, for the sake of discussion, has no control over his fans.
Probably because there are too many unconditional Lin fans like myself. I admit I follow him even after Linsanity because he is an Asian and was an underdog in his whole life. I’m a huge college bb fan since I went to Kentucky but could careless about NBA. I can say as a college bb fan, race definitely played some part for him being updraft. He was a beast in college and not many guards who were draft in the first round played better than he did. In January I was at an airport in Japan for business trip, an American came to me and talk basketball because I was wearing Kentucky hat. He mentioned that an ex Harvard guy who he also thought should have got drafted was tearing it up in D-league. That’s when I knew he made it to NBA. Then I came back to the states, Linsanity happened. The whole experience was surreal that made me an instant fan no matter it was legit or fluke. The numbers he posted may have been exaggerated by the system, but you can’t argue he has a solid court vision even under Mike Woodson. Right now he has been playing horrible in Houston. Lin really needs to work on his shots and the ability to finish at rim. Even though Harden is much more skilled but I think coaches should force Lin to drive to the rim to boost his confidence. That can also space the floor for Harden or Parsons if Lin decided to pass out. For his slump I blame 50% on Lin for being too passive and 50% on coach staff for not using him to his strength. I'm glad he's a rocket now because I've always liked Parson's game since college plus PP and TJ were our boys. With that being said, Houston fans are much classier than Knicks fans.
Honestly, it doesn't really matter how much hypes he got or how much the Rockets are paying him. To me, that doesn't bother me. The only thing that has been a little irritating about Lin to me lately is his lack of impact in some of the games. Jeremy Lin isn't the best 1 on 1 defender but he plays good team defense. On the fast break, he often make good decision and sometimes, good passes. But his poor shooting percentage as well as taking care of the ball well and not able to knock down wide open jumpers over and over again really gets to everyone. I would think everyone here would want the Rockets starting PG to be at least capable of knocking down wide open shots and protect the ball well. I really just hope that he works hard during off days, before games, and over the off season to improve his weaknesses. I knew he would come back down to earth this season but I didn't think it would be this much down to earth... Maybe he really did slack off a bit over the off season, went on too many tours around Asia and award ceremony. But right now its too early to tell since its not even December yet. He's still young with much to learn. Some people believe that maybe his past knee injury has to do with his jump shot but I don't think that's the case at all. I think its all confidence and he doesn't have much of it.
That is selective and dishonest. Let's not overvalue any obscure records and let's not disregard his recent struggles. His play has ranged from putrid to stellar. Says who? Where is the evidence? The fact that Jeremy Lin was one of only a select number of people to have the opportunity to play Division I NCAA basketball would seem to be evidence to the contrary. Sure, but if critics can't call him a bust for "a season or two", how can you justify his fans declaring him "elite" after a couple dozen games?
stay calm people, trade is looming and all this hate on jlin will vanish once he is traded. - can't wait till he wear the yellow and purple jersey
Obscure records? Having a greater start to your career than every other NBA player ever is not some obscure little record. His highs have been stratospheric, whereas his struggles haven't been extraordinarily bad. Jeremy Lin was one of the top players in California, a basketball hotbed, yet he didn't get a single college offer? BTW, Ivy League schools don't have athletic scholarships, so he wasn't "recruited" by Harvard (though I think they promised him a spot on the team). Who, besides some trolls or obvious ignoramuses, honestly called Lin "elite" after just a few games? I certainly wouldn't call Lin "elite" until he strings together multiple seasons of great play.
U mad bro? they are fans if they want to glorify their idol no one is forbidding them. besides basketball is business rockets should be thankful they have added more revenue. more fans more money and the team is alive, zero fans team is dead. I assume you have a favorite player as well that you root and glorify so stop the hate. To make you relax, trade is looming jlin will be wearing the yellow and purple jersey and all lin fans will follow him there and all lin complain will be gone so a win win situation for both
