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Why is Lin getting so much hate?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by roflmcwaffles, Nov 24, 2012.

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Why so much Lin hate (options described below)?

  1. Expectations

    125 vote(s)
    34.2%
  2. Contract Cost

    44 vote(s)
    12.0%
  3. Releasing other 2 PGs (Lowry/Dragic)

    76 vote(s)
    20.8%
  4. LOFs

    67 vote(s)
    18.3%
  5. Other

    54 vote(s)
    14.8%
  1. LinHype

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    Hey come on, respond to my question. What is your definition of the word "numerous"? Do you just plan to dodge it?

    You took what someone said in one single interview and exaggerated to say that he "has brought it up numerous time". You are the definition of a whiny drama queen. Just admit it like a man and move it.
     
  2. LinHype

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    move "on".
     
  3. jose

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    I'm not gonna look links for everyone just to prove you wrong. That's not what I go on here for. I already found a link for that other guy who said it never happened, not gonna keep doing this just for you guys to find something else "well bet you can't find THREE".

    Just like everyone who said how can they be racist when Yao had so much support, and then a guy tries to refute it by saying "Well Yao is tall as a tree so that doesn't count".

    You find anything for these LOFs and they will try to deny, disregard what you said and ask you to try to find something else. Done playing that game.
     
  4. JK1

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    Jose, what exactly is your definition of sucking? Give me numbers.

    And logical follow up, what is your definition of playing really well. Please use numbers, so that we can understand you.
     
  5. PhiSlamma

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    And a few years earlier, in World War II, people that looked like Lin were put into internment camps in the USA:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

    To compare the treatment of the first blacks in the NBA to those put into internment camps during WWII is ridiculous.

    See how easy it is to flip the argument around?

    Racism is racism is racism. It's important to understand that no one group has an exclusive lock on being racist or on being victims of racism. Anyone can be racist, and anyone can be a victim of racism.

    Let's work from this definition of racism:

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

    How does this apply to Lin?

    Lin suffers from the first part of that definition because he is often apparently looked upon as someone from an "inferior" race as regards to playing a professional sport, in this case basketball.

    This could be why, despite his achievements in high school, Lin was offered no college athletic scholarships. The subtext of many criticisms of Lin seems to be "he's Asian; he can't really be that good." That is racism.

    The second part of the racism definition on that page is "racial prejudice or discrimination." This kind of racism directed towards Lin manifests itself, for example, in the comments of Floyd Mayweather Jr. last year saying that Lin is getting acclaimed primarily because he's Asian. And Floyd said that his viewpoint was shared among some NBA players, with whom he apparently had contact on the subject.

    Thus, there was, and is, a seeming hostility towards Lin because of his "Asian"-ness. Lin has talked about this before, as when he recently said guys go harder against him because they don't want to get embarrassed by the Asian guy.

    The context of that kind of feeling towards Lin is that Asians are inherently inferior athletes and basketball players BECAUSE they are Asian. That is textbook racism.

    The sad corollary to all of this is the unspoken belief that there is a hierarchy of 'natural' athletic supremacy. And thus, if you are a member of high standing in the hierarchy, you can supposedly automatically out-compete anyone who is lower in the hierarchy, no matter how good or accomplished that player may be.

    The reason why this corollary is sad, this notion of inherent athletic supremacy, is because it also has a corollary which we have seen too often in the past. Or several corollaries. And they're all wrong and damaging. And they look something like this: That group is naturally less intelligent; that group naturally doesn't work as hard; that group has odd beliefs; etc.

    Now, is some criticism of Lin totally valid? Of course it is. Has he been disappointing so far? Yep.

    But, is he a victim of past and ongoing racism against him? Definitely. And he knows it. And he isn't afraid to talk about it. For that, I give him credit. But he's also not hung up on it. He knows he has to play better, too.

    Lin's fans seem to often see all criticisms of him as though they are racist ones. Lin's detractors seem to see no racism in any criticism of him. So, you're going to have conflicting versions of what is going on for him and why he is being criticized.
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    It really doesn't matter. All Lin has to do is continue playing exactly like he played against New York and the love will flow again.
     
  7. rokit

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    :rolleyes:


    you found an interview that proves nothing,'cause as i already told you -lin never used racism as an excuse.

    so yeah, you're just making stuff up while blaming LOF's...or whatever
     
  8. zdrav

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    A PG getting paid superstar money at $8 mil must start to average 20-10 as a base, and only get better from there as he enters his prime. We're probably looking at a minimum of maybe 25-15 once Lin starts playing well, or else he's a bust.

    What did Steve Nash average in his MVP years again? Like, 30-20?
     
  9. kozmo

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    That's exactly right.....people loved him in NY and those who didn't, it had nothing to do with race. I love Lin. Im watching the rockets because of Lin. I like them. But Lin has not played we'll and when he does And he will, the love will flow. I dontthinkpeoplecareifhes purple....if he can nd he plays well he will be fine and a rocket for years
     
  10. zdrav

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    Uh, all Ivy League schools are Div I.

    Div III schools are, like, tiny schools in the forest somewhere.

    LOL
     
  11. zdrav

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    Backtracking has already commenced, I see.
     
  12. torocan

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    Shhh.

    Never let the facts get in the way of an argument.

    Continue Jose...
     
  13. iconoclastism

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    Jose is a loser. Losers tend to put others down for instant gratification. See George Zimmerman.
     
  14. 34to11

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    Ball don't lie.
    Check the tape.
     
  15. jose

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    His high school was Div 3, apparently you have 0 reading comprehension, such is the case for most LOFs.
     
  16. blink

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    it's cuz he's black
     
  17. RedRedemption

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    His high school is not division 3.
     
  18. IronicMan

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    His HS is in Div 2. A tip for you; "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
     
  19. 34to11

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    Gotta love that logic. :grin:
     
  20. roxxy

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    But your original post didn't even say high school though. From your post it seems like you are clearly referring to harvard as Div 3...

    "To my knowledge he played Div 3, there has been some black kids not getting any offers before too from Div 3, but yes I'm sure race was a factor. I still believe as much as it worked against him in the past, it worked for him too (lucrative deals and such because of the following in Asia)."
     

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