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Why is Jeremy Lin so inconsistent?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockbox, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. thisiscaketown

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    I don't think many players have been expected to acclimate to so much change in such a short time as much as Jeremy Lin has. He's had to deal with a new team, inexperience, changing his entire game, fear of getting yanked, and a whole new set of Power Forwards after the trade deadline. Think about it: all this happened within less than a 60 game span. Of course Lin's going to be inconsistent. Heck, we thought the team was going to be inconsistent because it was so young.
     
  2. cw3k

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    It is because he is a pass first, shoot second players. In order words, he is not used right.

    Whatever, he stats will be improve when Rockets get a new coach next season.

    This season is done. I don't think Rockets will make the players. Kobe is right, they will make the playoff. They have figured it out. McHale still haven't figure it out.
     
  3. pnr

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    Another thing, many other point guards in the league have the same inconsistency issues. The difference is they don't have a million fans following their every move on and off the court to obsess over said inconsistencies.
     
  4. redearth

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    Lin is a 3rd year player who has steadily improved and has earned himself a starting role, but I have to wonder if his inconsistency will undo that status.

    Is it a sign that he's over-reaching his abilities? Or is it that maybe he doesn't have the mental discipline and focus to play at a high level on a consistent basis?

    James Harden is a 4th year player, in a new role, on a new team, adapting to a new system. I wonder what he has that Lin doesn't?
     
  5. zdrav

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    Right on.

    It takes absolutely no mental strength to try to be one of the only Asian-American basketball players in the history of American professional basketball when navigating through a culture that constantly tells you that as an Asian man, you're just genetically less of a man than everybody else.

    Why, Lin practically inherited his position in the NBA!
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    A consistent jumpshot?
     
  7. zdrav

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    The whole "Lin is in his 3rd year" line of argument is incredibly misleading.

    Lin was hardly ever used in his first 3 years at the NBA level, and he bounced around from team to team.

    As Kelvin Sampson himself said, Lin is "practically a rookie".
     
  8. zdrav

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    Harden doesn't go "full throttle". He's more of a glider.
     
  9. nono

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    In New York he was getting to the line 5 times a game. Now he is going there only three times a game. He is scared of contact in the paint and it is showing up in his numbers. More shots on the perimeter and bad floaters in the lane to avoid contact.
     
  10. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    That like saying Hasheem Thabeet is a rookie because he never got to play. This is Lin's 3rd year in the league.
     
  11. Sesshoumara

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    He's being real and honest. What's wrong with being sad about teammates leaving? And you have to admit that the trade disrupted the chemistry of the team, so maybe in the short-term, the team did take a step back. The interviews are just video clips that lasts a few minutes. I don't understand how you can psycho-analyze his mental status from those. If JLin is mentally weak, he would have quit being in the NBA a long time ago.
     
  12. holly1985

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    This. And bettter ability to get to the basket? Also a green light from coach?
     
  13. lwlee

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    Lin does have holes in his game skill-wise. However the bigger issue is he has some neurosis issue which is quite common in the asian community which means he sometime lacks confidence and is afraid to challenge authorities. He only fully believe in himself when his coach (used to be his parents) trusts him.

    Handen is a great individual basketball player. But he has a certain degree of character-disorder meaning he doesn't trust others easily and he lacks communication ability. He is not an ideal team player at this point of his career. When things don't go his way, he tends to shut himself off from others rather than open up. To be honest, I think this is the reason that OKC let him go. Westbrook is god-awful sometimes in terms of boneheaded plays but he communicate better with KD and other teammates.

    McHale is NOT a coach. Forget about a good one or a bad one. He doesn't know what to coach. A big time player can rarely become a good coach. Cuz usually they have big personalities. They are too busy being themselves to see the bigger picture and understand different kinds of players. So he won't adequately develop these young players. He can be a great big man trainer. Morey needs to look elsewhere for a head coach.

    Personalities are the first and foremost factor you need to look at when you try to judge people.

    I am not dissing any one of these three people. They all have reasons to become the persons they are today. Hope they can help each other and work things out.

    :p;):grin:
     
  14. l4z4rd

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    because Lin is a ball dominant PG who isn't allowed to be ball dominant. He's basically sharing his PG position with Harden who also happens to be ball dominant. And he has a coach who chastises him every chance he gets...even after having a great game.
     
  15. manning

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    another Lin thread? :p
    Lin's usage is 40th among all PGs (19.9) ... he was the 6th highest last year(27.6)..
    it forced him to improve his weakness (play off the ball and spot up shooter)... Maybe that's a good thing in future....
    Give Lin time to figure it out. He just needs more practice.
     
  16. zdrav

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    Thabeet was a 2nd overall pick who, in his rookie season, averaged 13 MPG and played in 68 games.

    Jeremy Lin, in contrast, played in only 29 of Golden State's games, starting in none of them.
     
  17. LewLLOYD

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    could it be, some nights, that teams load up against him
    and other nights they don't?

    maybe, part of it, is he takes whats available.


    and clearly, some nights he is off.
     
  18. zdrav

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    Yet another cultural essentialist argument.
     
  19. redearth

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    Let me double-check that... yes, I'm pretty sure Lin is a 3rd year player.

    I wonder why Sampson would call Lin "practically a rookie"? Does that mean that he thinks Lin plays as if he's a rookie even though he's a 3rd year player?


    Cool that Harden can play at such a consistently elite level while on cruise control. Lin tries really hard every game, and I hope he manages to put up great results on a more consistent basis, like Harden does.
     
  20. Rockets12

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    Hes young. Just like the rest of this inconsistent team
     

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