Why is high crime rate in the black community ignored

Agreed on everything there, only thing I meant by man up is on an individual basis, can't let things beat you no matter how bad they are.

 

Even if they could find reports on all vitals it would be hard to figure out. My uncle got caught with a few grams of hard stuff and was for usage only but got intent to deal, granted he has bunch of priors and a pos. deserves what he gets but still messed up.

 

All you're providing are anecdotes and platitudes. Anyone that takes even a few minutes to research the topic wouldn't be discussing this the way you are.

Do you think black people earn less because they just complain more?



Do you think banks hand out higher interest rates to black families because they just complain more?

Black and Hispanic Home Buyers Pay Higher Interest on Mortgages, Study Finds
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/01/us/01minorities.html?_r=0



Do you know what redlining is? Is that just some excuse too?

Redlining is the practice of denying, or charging more for, services such as banking, insurance,[2] access to health care,[3] or even supermarkets,[4] or denying jobs to residents in particular, often racially determined,[5] areas. The term "redlining" was coined in the late 1960s by John McKnight, a sociologist and community activist.[6] It refers to the practice of marking a red line on a map to delineate the area where banks would not invest; later the term was applied to discrimination against a particular group of people (usually by race or sex) irrespective of geography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining


What about prison? Do they go to prison more because they complain more?

One in every three black males born today can expect to go to prison at some point in their life, compared with one in every six Latino males, and one in every 17 white males, if current incarceration trends continue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/racial-disparities-criminal-justice_n_4045144.html


Please, identify for me how white people are affected similarly. Don't tell me stories, prove it. Tell me how tens of thousands of white families got higher interest rate loans for decades because they're white. Let's see it.

And when we talk about "profiling", we're not talking about your classmates or your neighbors. We're talking about people in positions of power. The police, business owners, judges, etc. The types of people that can ruin lives. You don't really seem to understand.

You're so off with this whole tangent. Yes, everyone can make it if they're talented enough, lucky enough, outwork everyone, are in the right circumstances, etc. However, by the virtue of math, it's easy to see why a much higher percentage of those that do not have these obstacles will make it as opposed to those that do have these obstacles. White privilege is born out in the history, the facts, the math. Just because you don't like the sound of it doesn't mean it's not true.

 

I do understand profiling, it has affected my life personally with these high ranking people you talk about. You ever been beat by cops? Stopped in your own neighborhood and forced to strip down while they strip your vehicle? I know it happens to black folks all the time, not saying it doesn't happen, but it happens to others as well. All I'm saying is it's not easy for lower income folks no matter their race.

Criminal statistics are still subjective, there are other factors that go along with those statistics then just crude overall numbers.

No where have I said that black folks have it easy, you're taking it personal on that front. All I'm saying is it's not easy for any low income family, but doing nothing about it and placing blame on others when you are the only person that can do anything about your personal situation is not right.

I get your stance on all of the things you are stating and am not refuting any of it, but blacks are not alone in struggles of life.
No need to get pissed off and say you just don't know, you're ignorant when the same could be said about you.

 

Anyway, I read a lot on here and very rarely post. I read a lot of your posts and from an outside perspective it always comes across as you are always right and any differing opinion means they are ignorant or racist. There's no point in arguing, you are pro-black agenda and that is fine, I can respect your care and enthusiasm for your race, but no need to put other races down to prove your points. I can converse with you all day if you can be more open minded and not single minded on the struggles of your people.

 

No, what I take personal is willful ignorance and a dumbing down of reality. I've asked you back up your contentions with facts and you just give me more stories and slogans. If these horrible things happen to white people too with any regularity then it shouldn't be that hard for you to show.

I've asked both you and the OP to back up your claims and I'm still waiting.

 

Since when is justice pro any race? Maybe that's your problem. I'm not black and what does that matter?

Where did I put other races down? Quote it for me.

You just called me single minded? LOL. I guess if I just told more stories and used some slogans that would make me more open minded.

 

62 posts and you have started two threads about race. This probably isn't going to end well for you.

 

Oh look, it's the "nobody else faces adversity" slogan again.

 

Donald tokowitz Sterling agree with some posters here

 

he is what we think he is . .. but i doubt much will come of it

Rocket River

 

You have always tried to put Asians down, especially Asians from a certain region/country. As a well-known hypocrite, you will surely make a fragile attempt to deny it. But I will disrespect you less if you just man up to admit your passive aggressive way of racist behavior.

 

Well then you'll be able to quote my putting Asians down from certain a region/country. Go for it. As many times as some of you have attacked me it should be easy for you to do. I'm waiting.

You know he got traded right? Lakersground should be your new dumping ground. Need a link?

 

Failed to attack my post so you resorted to attack my screen name? How lame.

Well then you'll be able to quote what I said that validates your idea that I should go to lakerground. Go for it. As many times as some of you have attacked me because of my screen name, it should be easy for you to do. I'm waiting.

My experience of reading this board is that you have always been speaking on the side of the blacks whenever there is a debate that the black race is involved. On the contrary, whenever there is a debate that involves the Asians, especially the Chinese, you have always taken a stance against them. You have made thousands of posts. What about trying to quote a few that dispute my assertion. I am waiting.

Look, it is really not that difficult to spot a hypocrite if there is one.

 

LinHype
Since: Jul 2012

There you go man, that really WAS easy. Thanks.

I'm still waiting.

 

I don't have a horse in the race, but that's not the way it works. You can't make an accusation then say "prove it wrong". It's kinda on you to back up your accusation with evidence.

 

To cmoak1982: Do some whites suffer greatly in this country, perhaps even moreso than the most hapless black person? Sure, in some cases they do.

But does this suffering come from a systemic and institutional prejudice based off of the color of their skin? NO. And that's what this whole thing is about, dude. You keep coming back with how bad you have had it and how bad other whites have it, and no one is going to deny that. But the reasons why many black people have it bad is not JUST because they're poor, it's because they are actively alienated from mainstream society by people who have invested a distrust within them.

You can say that people distrust "poor people" in general, and perhaps you'd be right, but that's exactly where the advantage of being white comes in. As a white man, you will always be more easily trusted than a black man or a Hispanic man will, even if there's less of a real reason for that to be the case. That goes for getting a job, getting a loan, getting a promotion, getting a raise, being stopped randomly by the cops and being able to go on with your day without being detained, having less of a chance of being shot while unarmed during a traffic stop, being shown a house in a good neighborhood by your real estate agent, etc.

 

How about you go spend two minutes in the California AA thread and find out for yourself?

You don't need be spoonfed this board's entire history to know CometsFail has always had a "Pro black, forget everyone else" stance.

 

Naw, I'll pass. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Like I said, I don't have a horse in this race. Wanted to speak my piece, and it has been spoken. BeWell...

 

Not one of those articles has enough information.

On retention: are they controlling for achievement, and saying that equally performing whites are being passed to the next grade while blacks are being held back, or are they saying a higher percentage of black students fail to meet grade level standards? The first would be an example of racism, the second not so much.

On discipline in schools: are they controlling for behavior? If an equal number of white and black students get in a fight (for example) and more blacks are suspended (all else being equal, such as history) that is racist. If black students have more behavioral problems and thus get more discipline, that is common sense.

On racial disparities in the criminal justice system: are they controlling for plea vs. trial, public defender vs. private counsel, criminal history, absence or presence of incriminating statements? I have seen many people get different sentences for the same crime, but the differences were based on race neutral factors like those I listed.

This is not to say that racism cannot be a factor in any of those situations, only that the articles have not made even the barest case for it. If I was offered a date with any cast member of the Help and I chose Emma Stone, that is not proof of racism, it is evidence that I have eyes.