Why is Deron Williams widely regarded as the 2nd best PG in the game?

cause he lives in utah and anyone who can survive such a dismal place deserves some recognition

 

Is that even possible? I can think of very few consistent starters that are clearly worse defenders...maybe Zach Randolph...maybe. And, the fact that he really hasn't declined much just goes to show how much he never really had some huge improvement when he came to Phoenix. He is the same player he was with the mavs, he is just a perfect fit for that offense but his production drops in any other.

In regards to the OP...really? Tony Parker is a really good scorer but that's it, not much different from what Devin Harris has become. He is an average playmaker and that is where people miss the point. This is like comparing Danny Granger to Brandon Roy. Granger may score alot but he doesn't make his teammates better like Roy. And, you can't just go by assists, that's misleading. Parker gets 7 assists but, how many of those are from dumping it down to possibly the best PF ever? I'd even take Billups over him, even though the numbers suggest he's not a star.

 

Deron kicks the Rockets ass pretty much at will. I dunno what his rank is...but he is up way high from my perspective. He is a good reason the Rockets never beat Utah in the first round.

 

As mentioned being in Tim Duncan's shadow takes away some of the attention from Tony Parker. Then the "old team" mention. The Spurs are a Pencil-Them-In consistent team, not really "dynamic". Spurs are known for fitting veteran players into their style, not really for developing talent (though they never get high draft picks to even get that oppurtunity). So Parker might get lumped in with the Michael Finley's of the team as a fixed product.

And I tend to think the Eva Longoria thing both helps and hurts Parker. It surely gets him in the spotlight. But it can take some attention away from his on court performance. And lets not forgot Parker's attempt at rapping... jk

Deron can kinda do what Parker does, with better passing, outside shooting and defending. Parker is definitely in the elite. Deron puts on the Rockets bad, but its not like Parker's far behind. Or Nash even...

 

Parker is a great player but I can't help but think that if he played for another team he would not be nearly as good. On the other hand, put Deron Williams on any team in the NBA and he will put up similar numbers immediately.

 

1. Parker
2. Williams
3. Paul
4. Billups
5. Harris / Nash

 

Baller4Life said it before I could, but Ill say it again. Parker just doesn't make his teammates better. What great point guards have there been that didn't make their teammates better? Isiah? Well Isiah was the best player on his team without a doubt and also set the pace, and established a toughness.

Parker doesn't even play PG in my book. He plays scorer.

 

If all you do is talk about what someone's won, you wouldn't be talking about Oscar Robertson, Charles Barkley, or John Stockton like they should be Hall-of-Fame players, which they clearly are.

Williams is a more complete player than all of those guys, period.

 

Why would you say that? It isn't like he depends on a system for his scoring. TP can score off the break, off the catch and can break down anyone off the dribble to either pull up for a jumper or finish at the rim. IMO, you put him on another team and his numbers would likely increase because the Spurs don't run on a regular basis and their offense is very structured. TP is a free spirit who wants to do more than he does but has been tamed by Pop.

 

Ask yourself this:

Of the best PG's in the league, who would you most want on the Rockets?

1. Paul
2. Williams
3. Parker
4. Billups
5. Nash

You don't need stats to show Deron's better. Just use your eyes and your gut.

 

I think that disparity is due to DWill's injuries this year. He was hobbled for good portion of the season, and that may have affected his shot. He shot 39% from 3 last year and is a career 36% shooter from downtown.

 

it depends on who they're playing with and what offense they're playing with. if they were to be playing with sloan, i'd think dwill is a great fit because of the grit, but parker fits perfectly with duncan and paul seems to be doing well under scott. nash is past his prime, imo, but still a top 3-5 pg in the league, not the best anymore.

 

I would definitely want Paul, then Deron, then Parker. Age difference is a big factor.

 

For Rockets, I would prefer

Deron -> Billups -> Davis -> Paul

This doesn't mean Paul or Parker is worse than B-Diddy or Mr Big Shot.

 

D williams would light up parker anyday of the week..

 

You pose a fair question but in this case I think it's fairly obvious that even despite how great of a player Parker is, I don't think even a Spurs fan would argue he's a "natural point". Sure, he's a decent playmaker but let's be honest: his playmaking skills, instincts and court vision are not on the same level as the Nash/Kidd/CP3/D-Will types that blatantly qualify as the "make their teammates better" type you're calling into question.