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Why is deke a better rebounder then Yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Air Langhi, Jan 11, 2007.

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  1. Highwire

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    Yao prefers to box out opponents for his team mate to grab the rebound. I haven't seen Yao fight for a ball against his team mates. You would see it often on JHo, Dike, and Hayes. Many time I've seen them do that.

    When I was playing I would skip to brush my teeth starting from the night before the game so it's easy to box out opponents. :). Just smile at them and give them what you got :D
     
  2. sun12

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    I think somebody should compare the total team rebound when Yao plays against when Deke plays. Also compare the rebound differential when Yao plays and when Deke plays.
     
  3. doboyz

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    Why is deke a better rebounder than yao?

    Why is yao a better scorer than than deke?
     
  4. weslinder

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    I don't think anyone has mentioned arm and hand strength. Mutombo never gets a rebound ripped out of his hands, Yao does occasionally. And Mutombo has better anticipation.
     
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    well like most said he can just concentrate on that and that only.......like ben wallace and rodman used to do......thats what they do nuthin else.....if yao was strictly d....it would happen


    but i do wonder is how deke can get blocks and have players like bynum and the rest of the lakers go at him all night and he somehow stays out of foul trouble all night....i would LOVE FOR YAO TO STUDY THAT FROM HIM........ESPECIALLY HIS BLOCK SHOTS.........when players attack yao he gets in foul trouble.....deke controls the paint
     
  6. fromobile

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    Guys!!

    Come on. Has anyone mentioned wingspan? Mutombo has an enormous wingspan. Yao does not. I believe that's why yao is such a good shooter, his arms and hands aren't off the charts. Mutombo's hands are long too. Also Yao is taking the shots, so he can't get the boards.

    Wingspan.
     
  7. Faos

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    Frankly I haven't. Deke doesn't have a great vertical from what I've seen.
     
  8. DaneB

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    That's a great point! We won't have to worry nearly as much about missing a beat when Yao goes out!
     
  9. rofflesaurus

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    a blind man can see that dikembe is a much better rebounder than yao, who just sticks his hands up and catches the ball. dikembe uses agility, speed and athleticism to jump up while grabbing the ball. its truly impressive. he gives us an interior rebounding and shot blocking presence that yao doesnt have and im not sure he ever will have.
     
  10. DonkeyMagic

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    b/c yao is actually involved in the offense. simple as that
     
  11. rofflesaurus

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    SO WHAT if hes part of the offense? Dwight Howard is the focal point of Orlando's offense and has had five 20/20 games this season. duncan and KG play offense too and rebound as well as anyone, and dont get me started with shaq. in his prime he was a lock for 30/20 almost every night.
     
  12. rofflesaurus

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    so pls stop making excuses for yao and just admit that he's not as skilled a rebounder as some of the best in the league.
     
  13. cdxiong

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    Look, if Yao is as good as Deke on the defensive end, he will not be a human. Sometimes, God is just fair.
     
  14. Yetti

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    Mutombo has made a career of being agreat rebounder and shotblocker.
    Yao Ming is making a career as an offensive dominating force, each great in their own specialities.
    Gentle Yao, the consumate team player doesnt mind when others grab his rebounds , sometimes snatching them within inches of Yao's hands, on the other hand Mutombo won't have anything to do with such frivolities, he makes his money rebounding and shot blocking and you had better not get in his way!
     
  15. arno_ed

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    Ehh, shaq only had 3 seasons with an average of more then 13 rebounds. And he never averaged more then 30 points, so it is a bit of a overstatement.

    That being said. I think it is clear that at this point in his career Yao is not as good a rebounder as Dikembe was/is. Yao still has a lot to learn about positioning. And also rebpounding is a skill. and it is just not one of Yao best skills (it is not like he is a bad rebounder, but also not a great rebounder).
     
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    I guess Yao Ming Cannot Fly like Superman- so he must not be all that good. Jeez! What is the problem guys?
     
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    It is silly to make sweeping statements. Fouls on Yao is not what this team wants. His energy is more useful in keeping our offense efficient. IF that is needed he will do that- right now that is not what we need him for.

    Wake up- Yao is the most dominant center in the league today. The others are just imposters or has-beens ( Yes I am talking about Shaq)
     
  18. Yao#1

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    People talk like Yao is averaging 5 or 6 rebounds. If you dont count the game he got hurt and only got 2 boards, he was right under 10 a game which isnt bad.

    Deke is a great rebounder, but his stats vs. Yao's are influenced by the differences in their game. Yao comes out much higher on pick and roll defense, cuz teams always use his man to pick. As a result he ends up further away from the basket so rebounding is harder. Look at the Min game recently. Deke would not come out to guard KG on the perimeter. KG was hitting shots from just inside top of the key all day.

    On offense, Yao takes a shot with two guys flooding at him, so his chances at offensive boards are lower then Deke's. With Deke, his man often leaves to double team Tmac so he gets more chances at the boards. Also with Yao out, the rox are shooting a ton of 3s per game. More 3s means more misses which means more rebounding chances.

    That being said, i do think deke is a better rebounder. When he tips the ball he seems to put it in a place where only he can go get it. With Yao his tips seem to just go wherever. But like I said, Yao still holds his own on the boards, so Im not too concerned.
     
  19. Glan

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    Anyone knows how many players were hit by Deke's elbows? That must be a long list. Yao is also on the list. :rolleyes:
    Indeed, Yao should learn how to use his elbows.
     
  20. HAYJON02

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    Hey, remember pre-Rockets when most people here hated Deke and his elbows? I even remember the front page saying something like 'What a Deke' or something when we aquired him. :D

    Was it '96 when there was speculation involving a 3-way trade involving him (Houston/Denver/Phoenix)? Maybe it was the Barkley trade or before we got Pippen. I was hoping we'd land him, but then again I was in the 6th grade at the time. Hakeem and Deke sounded so cool, especially having just learned about the original Twin Towers. That would've been the best interior defense of all time!

    Wierd. We hated Barkley, then loved him, and now hate him for good. We hated Deke, and now we're asking him to retire a Rocket!
     

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