Err fine art is nothing more than the ability to duplicate details? What an incredibly....layman way of thinking. So I guess none of us can appreciate a good movie because we never wrote screenplays or directed. Your ramblings have become more and more inane. Yes there are tons of questionable "art" that have garnered more attention than they probably deserve, but good art is more than just an image with a million little details.
what is really great is when artists duplicate details with a bunch of little dots. but when artists duplicate reality by allowing a woman to climb a staircase...that is just weird.
I have always said that I cannot respect a piece of art if it is something I could create myself. Therefore, I hate most abstract art because it just seems too simplistic. However, I truly admire realistic artwork. I wish I could create things like that.
Those "dumb" pieces of art motivated you to post here, right? And now you've got a three page discussion on art. I think those artists succeeded....
if i can do it, it must be ****, 'cause, i'm ****. LOL if art does nothing else for you guys, it certainly puts you face to face with your insecurities. art is not about your self worth, art is where you find it.
Seriously, this is painful. It is also sad that there appear to be some really bad art history professors out there (not a surprise, obviously...and who knows where some of these "people" went to school). AbEx had nothing to do with the Cold War but was a continuation and extension of themes that began in the late 19th century in painting. Sure, it was held up as awesome American because it was the first form of painting that was unique to the US (and really the American art scene was accelerated because of all the displaced intellectuals and artists from WWII). To me it is interesting and important as a concept and movement. I agree the work is often quite secondary to the ideas, but that is the 20th century for you - concept moves forward and artists repeatedly try to strip down or outright kill painting. As I said, the ignorance is painful but on the other hand, art has become so insular and self-referential that it is often far too intimidating for laymen and engenders a feeling of not getting it, being left out, etc. So why bother to understand if the people in the community are so annoying and exclusive? Huge problem. But, then, why doesn't our society value the education to bring people up to speed? Word to your mutha.
It's true, though. I completely suck at art, so if I see something that I could easily create, how can I respect that? A lot of modern art just looks like junk you'd find at a crappy flea market. I know it's all about "the feeling you get inside" when you view it, but I find more of that in nature, and not in some stupid squiggly lines that a kindergarten kid could have made, or a rusty old lamp post with feathers glued onto it. It's hard to be inspired by something that looks like complete crap. I truly enjoy good art, though. If something is really well done, it can be breathtaking. I have yet to experience that with abstract art, though.
haha... what i find great about art is that everyone has a different reaction to it. to me, art is something that elicits thought. and this installation does exactly that, even though it's a book, a stand, and some wings. when i look at this, i get this unshakable feeling of sadness coupled with power. to each his own.
I saw a video on youtube in which a girl took a can of spaghetti-o's, put them on a wooden board on the floor, then masterbated and then finally pissed all over the spaghetti-o's. She then tried to clean the mess up and walked away. Yes, it was art because there were like 30 20-something hipsters there to approve. Sheesh! Don't you people know anything!
Man you are all over this art thing...I ibet you wear a scarf with a V-neck. You're sippin Starbucks right now aren't you?
I'm glad somebody mentioned Duchamp since to understand a lot of modern art you really need to go back to Duchamp. Duchamp considered art as being an intentional challenging of expectations and also that the viewer of art also brings something to the understanding of it. Modernism as a cultural movement was all about challenging the previous conventions of form , particularly Western classical form, so by its very nature its supposed to be challenging and not readily understood. Also many of the principles of abstract expressionism also are not things completely new to human culture but have cropped up in the art of many societies. For example: Zen paintings Spoiler for size Spoiler Celtic Art An emphasis on pure form versus representation of realism has long been part of human history. The bottom line though is art is always subjective.
I think the problem nowadays is that people rely so much on gimmicks and unorthodox ways of painting or sculpturing to get attention. What ever happened to making well-made art (craftsmanship)? I'm sure a kid could make some painting that looked like Picasso. Unfortunately, that kid probably wouldn't know what hes doing with the paint in contrast to Picasso. Before Picasso was doing more abstract paintings, he was painting realistically(blue and rose period). Picasso was famous for introducing the idea of 4th dimensionality -- space look at his cubism pieces. . Believe or not, some of those "ugly paintings" (and great paintings) paved the way for modernism.
