Why Indiana's changing situation can solve our problems

Who said anything about giving a scrub a front-loaded contract?

 

You mentioned OKC and Nick Collison as something the Pacers should do also.

Collison=scrub

 

Want to do a $20 sig bet on Granger getting traded by the deadline?

 

Won't bet on trades. Most of them don't go down. I simply stated what Indy SHOULD do. They SHOULD trade Granger. They are going nowhere and they are losing money. And there is no superstar available for expirings that is going to turn them into a championship contender.

 

When I mentioned Larry's interview about not trading Granger. You said it was a fake misdirection for Larry Bird. I am pretty sure Granger isn't going anywhere. Even if they get nobody in trade, they need to keep people to meet the minimum requirements.

 

They don't need to keep Granger to meet minimum requirements. They just have to trade for enough expiring salary back to meet minimum requirements. And if they did move both Posey and Granger for a young player or two, a pick, and expirings, they would have lots of room to manuever next season under the new CBA, and they would not be committed to much of anything. They would add a lottery draft pick in all likelihood, maybe two lottery picks, and they could fill out the rest of their minimum cap space as they needed. Look to Sacramento for an example.

 

If they trade Granger for an expiring contract, the salary falls off this year. If they trade for a larger contract to meet the minimum team salary, they are hurting themselves more financially.

 

Dump $12 mil Granger salary for expiring.
$22 mil pay roll.
At least $44 mil minimum team salary next year.
They need $22 mil more to meet requirments. Get older and sign a few vets for $22 mil? Rookie contracts aren't going to meet that $22 mil.

 

Sacramento is a horrible example. Sacramento only had $12 mil below the minimum team salary.

Indy will have $12 mil in cap space now, without dumping Granger or Posey. If they dump Granger and Posey, they would have $30 mil below the minimum team salary to fill with a temporary Dalembert contract. Why would they spend $30 mil on 30+ yr old vets for a youth movement to meet the minimum salary requirements for 2011-12?

 

I have no doubt in my mind Granger will be traded before the deadline.

As a Houston fan, I think Houston has a shot at him without giving away Martin, but If I look at it from Indys perspective I don´t see anyone I would want for him. If I am trading Granger, I want young starting talent to add to Hibbert, Collison, George, Rush and Hansbrough coming off the bench.
I think only Paterson and t.will are starting material/will be (talking about young guys), and I think DM will not trade them, because a trade for them will always lack value, because both have not played enough time.

The only big asset we have for Indy is the amount of money we might save them, going forward.

BetterThanEver

Don´t forget....... Green and Afallo, for example, are restricted FA, if they are able to sign both, they would have.

Hibbert
Green - stretch 4
George
Affalo
Collison

Rush and Hansbrough

Young talented team with alot of upside, so expirings for Granger and specially Posey, might have more value then normal (not saying granger will be traded for JUST expirings)....

Besides, I think Bird might have a shot at trading Granger for Favors, for example.

I think Granger will be traded, I just hope DM pulls a miracle, because I think Granger would excell on a system that gives talented perimeter players open looks on O, and the "problem" Granger has had over the years is bad shot selection because he takes alot of junk shots, like Iggy in Phily (Granger is alot better shooter tho).

PeAcE

 

Dude, Indy is sitting at $64 million in salary. If they trade Granger and Posey for Yao's expiring, they're not under the minimum salary, and they save several million dollars in insurance money from Yao's contract. And next season they are sitting at around $15 million salary plus the addition of a lottery pick, plus possibly a second pick, plus a whole pack of free agents they can offer contracts to. The minimum salary for 2011 is somewhere around $44 million. They could give away both Granger and Posey for nothing and still be above the minimum salary requirement.

C'mon now. Let's go watch the game. I'm not wasting more time trying to answer you.

 

Will you beat me $20?

 

That's what I was saying. They only have $34 mil in commited salary for 2011-12. Why dump Granger to chase after old vets, if they are in a "youth movement" only to go older by signing free agents to make a playoff run? They are either in a youth movement or in playoff mode.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/indiana.htm

 

Granger is not getting traded. Book it!

 

Sure, he's overpaid and got a shnizz-load of money this season in order to help out OKC's cap situation long term. But check out OKC's top five-man units. Collison is a big part of that team's success. He's a quality defensive big and a good role player.

Please reserve the term "scrub" for those actually deserving of the moniker.

 

Ok, no-stats all-star then.

 

@SI_IanThomsen: Larry Bird says Granger won't be traded http://bit.ly/flQ3kU