Agreed on the need to curb spending. But at this moment, the options are limited. More like which candidate will not complete screw up the economy. Its pretty sad how we ended up with these three possibilities when there is a recession coming. Better hold on tight, its going to be pretty rough next few years.
You may not, but, to steal a phrase, politics is perception. There are more than enough indignant moderates, who might question his judgment in this matter, to turn the election.
Raise taxes in a recession? The Clinton years were more about being at the right time in a economic cycle.
changing the subject is a good tatic when you're wrong. we're talking about the economy. you said during a recession raising taxes was bad. ghb did so, since you didn't want to give clinton credit for paying down some debt i went to the president before who raised taxes in the midst of recession. do you stand by your assertion.
Look at the Wright thing this way: There's a reason Huckabee wouldn't release the sermons he delivered. Because when you start analyzing the religious from the political prism, it's easy to blow up some things and make anybody look absurd. Wright's stuff is reflective of his position as pastor of a predominantly black church in Chicago. He's not just preacher, but leader and uplifter. So what if he says a few things that gets the congregation fired up? That's his job and I've not seen anything from Obama suggesting he is swayed by his church as much as W is in some of his beliefs. The whole thing with Wright is an attempt to tie a caricature of an angry black man to Obama because Obama is just not threatening enough for the racial attacks the GOP would like to run in the general. Thus the need for a surrogate. The added bonus is that Obama has to either ignore the attacks or defend the angry black man in some way, just tying him tighter to teh angry black man. If Wright doesn't take, they'll try Michelle Obama again and try to paint her as an angry black woman. Any angry black will do as long as they're tied to Obama.
Obama supports it. Not that it matters too much, because it's supposed to be a legistative/judicial responsibility. I'm against the death penalty, but I think that the only thing Congress should do about it is abolish it for Federal cases.
Concur. It's no wonder we lose jobs with these agreements given that we demand people be treated like, you know, people.
I think you guys know that rhester is a friend of mine...so this may sound like i'm just supporting a friend.... but wouldn't it be great if more threads were like this one? he presents views...says which one he agrees with and disagrees with...doesn't feel the need to demonize. just presents an objective conversation. people here can actually learn about the issues and the different takes on them with that approach.
As with so many issues for me I don't view them as they are implemented. I do not support the death penalty as it is implemented. However I do understand and would support the justice of the death penalty on the basis of two or three actual witnesses. "At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death." Deuteronomy chap. 17. I do not support the death penalty when based upon circumstantial evidence or only one witness, or if the witness can be shown not to be credible under examination and definately when there is not an actual credible witness. I would support it in cases where there are determined to be at least two credible WITNESSES to a murder and the penalty was capitol punishment. This would eliminate most of the wrongful convictions and applications of the death penalty. However I would only support the death penalty in cases of murder and if there is also a provision for clemency (under certain guidelines) if it is offered by the (edit spelling-**victum's** ) victim's immediate family and ruled to be their express wishes. (bible college is not the same as Harvard ) Complicated view on my part to say the least. Obama and I may share the same views on this I don't know, I am not big pro-death penalty, but I would support a proper use of it. Again I see in principle where I could agree with him on some issues. But fundementally I see him still locked into the system and I don't anticipate him bring the changes that positive and really solve the root issues, I think in office he will be politics as usual. I know I am asking too much, but I am really disappointed in the direction of politics over the last several pres. terms.
you could learn alot from him. j/k I agree about rhester even though I don't agree with everything he has to say.
Raising taxes in a recession is bad, but the economic cycle did turn up during the Clinton years. And debt was going down during that upturn, Clinton deserve some credit for managing it during the boom, but the timing of the economic cycle has lot more to do with debt being paid down.
