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Why has everyone turned on Morey so quickly?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by acshen, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. coachbadlee

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    Only after Brooks was injured.
     
  2. Pizza_Da_Hut

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    Give Lowry his due. He busted his ass over the summer and as soon as he was asked to step up he did. True, it came at the heels of an injury, but to be fair Lowry still showed he earned it.
     
  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    whats the point you're trying to make?

    The fact is he had the better player start, like last season/this season for instance?
     
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    Haven't you played sports? That's how most opportunities arise.
     
  5. Glenyo

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    Whos with me IN MOREY WE TRUST :D
    rick adelman is not a rebulding coach his a coach that wants to be a contending team.
    Welcome New Coach.
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    every time I've heard this stupid statement it makes me cringe. Don't blindly trust in anyone that hasn't acheived squat.

    That and "Morey r god" or whatever.

    I just don't understand it. And i've always been on the fence regarding him, but felt hes vastly overrated.
     
  7. coachbadlee

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    Just saying it took an injury for Adelman to finally go with the better starter. Brooks was killing us.
     
  8. coachbadlee

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    I truly believe if Lowry would have started at the beginning of the season, we would be in the playoffs right now. Other than that, Rick had done a great job getting us close to making it.
     
  9. LosPollosHermanos

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    what are you talking about? He wasn't killing us, did you watch the rockets last season? Brooks was much better, especially with

    hayes
    battier
    ariza
    scola

    starting, how are you going to blame rick for playing the far superior offensive player?

    And when brooks got injured early on lowry didn't surge up in day. He slowly improved and then made a big jump late on.

    The better player starts, theres a reason he didn't have his starter last season and MIP winner start this season ahead of the backup last year. Lowry out played him , simple is that. I'm still not getting your point.
     
  10. DrNuegebauer

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    What has Morey done wrong?

    I suppose he should've made sure Ming didn't get injured :rolleyes:

    If Ming is healthy, we're watching the first round of the playoffs right now.

    Sadly the whole Ming thing didn't work out, left us without a big man to speak of. But hey, apart from the C position, we have a pretty nice roster right about now! Just give us a 6'10+ shotblocker for the middle who can run the floor, and this is a 50 win team.

    No idea why some morons think that every player who got traded "should have come to Houston" and blame Morey that they didn't....

    There's a pretty serious reason that Morey is the GM and those guys aren't!


    And don't be down on his hardlined moves (ie - give me a good deal for Houston or no deal) --> it's worked out well for Presti so far in OKC - we're just a little bit behind them on the 'working out' timeline!
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    thats incorrect and you can't make that call. It had much more to do with the instability surrounding the rockets and the Yao situation early on.

    Its not a one thing hit or miss situation. Saying brooks, who was playing just as well before injury as last season would net us less games if lowry started then makes no sense. Post injury he played bad, and like i said, you saw who rick started.
     
  12. LosPollosHermanos

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    theres also a reason morey hasn't achieved anything so far, and rick has made the finals against jordan, and nearly did but practically got cheated out of it in 2002.

    I'll take the proven methods and credentials over the stats guy thats going to best his way calculating with his tI 83 and p-values to a championship.
     
  13. LosPollosHermanos

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    oh and he's the one that put the entire team on Yao's foot this season banking him to be healthy.

    So yes, he is to blame for that.
     
  14. blink

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    first tmac, then ab, and now morey. if you arent winning, someone's always to blame.
     
  15. coachbadlee

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    Fast forward to the beginning of this past season. 0-5! No defense. Inconsistency. Aaron needed every bit of those starter minutes to become MIP. Lowry would come off the bench as the sparkplug. It shows now in Pheonix. When Aaron comes off the bench, he is ineffective. When Aaron is not scoring, he is a huge liability, in any case. In this case, the better player finished the season with us. You are arguing a point that has already been proven.
     
  16. coachbadlee

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    Brooks was up and down before the injury as well. It was only a matter of time.
     
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    I still "believe" in Morey, or as much as I did before. So many of his moves are about being proactive and looking ahead that it's hard to judge the quality of his moves until you see the ultimate result.

    However, when I think of his interviews and the stories that come out about him, he's coming off to me as somewhat...two-faced. But who knows, maybe that's what it takes to be an effective GM.

    Overall my impression of Morey is that he's someone whom I'd want to work for me if I were the boss, but not necessarily someone I'd want to work for. If that makes sense.
     
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    Let me rephrase it for you:

    Morey is a sneaky rat
     
  20. DaDakota

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    I don't think people have turned on him, but rather his honeymoon period is over, too many years of hoarding assets to get a star player, only to fall short get some people to finally realize that perhaps that is not all that great of a strategy, or is harder than they thought it was.

    Ultimately as GM, DM is the top guy, and to blame middle management (Adelman) for the team's shortcomings is a bit hypocritical.

    The buck stops and Morey and Les, and neither one of them is taking any blame for the organizations continued failure to lift itself out of mediocrity.

    Yes Morey has done a great job in most trades, and his drafts have been pretty good, but he has missed out on guys like Deandre Jordan and taken Joey Dorsey instead, so it is not all wine and roses.

    This is a massive risk by the organization to jettison one of the most successful coaches in NBA history, after a roster has been built for his style of play. If the team takes a step back, it will 100% be Morey's fault for not retaining Rick, at some point, the GM needs to be held accountable for his actions.

    The roster turnover here is ridiculous - you can not build chemistry by constantly flipping the rosters, the talking about trades in the media all the time situation KILLS team cohesiveness and loyalty, the lowballing of every contract by no extensions policy is unattractive to free agents.

    IMHO, DM's grade is at INC, his trades have been a plus, but his overall people management and contract situations are a big negative......he has work to do on his own game to EARN loyalty from long time fans like me.

    DD
     

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