Scottie Quitten is a loser. He only won championships because MJ was around. What happened why MJ left. They say he is a leader. Look at the Blazers, would you want him leading your team. He cried in Houston when he only got 6 or 8 shots per game and wasnt scoring much. Wait he only gets 6 or 8 shots per game now, but he is not crying. Why? Quitten was nothing more than a very good role player. He is not a franchise player and would never have been. He could hit the open shot, but onloy because 3 guys were draped over MJ. I hate Quitten.
Here is a concise sequence of events (as best I rememebr) that led to Pippen being forever known as Quitten by the Rockets faithful. 1. Quitten comes to the Rockets in a mega-deal that nets him 14 Million plus/year and is hailed as the final piece of the puzzle to take the Rockets back to the championship. The team and the city welcome him. 2. About midway through his 1st season he is playing OK but not as expected. He is very tentative, particularly on offense. He blames his teammates for not getting him the ball. He blames Rudy's offensive scheme. 3. Rudy makes changes to the offensive scheme designed to allow Quitten to become more aggressive. Rudy privately and publicly gives Quitten the green light to become more aggressive offensively. Nothing changes. Quitten continues to whine about his teammates (particularly Hakeem and Barkley) and Rudy's offense. After the Rockets are eliminated from the playoffs, Quitten continues his whining about the Rockets offense and the players limiting his effectiveness. 4. The Rockets begin making offseason changes that should suit Quitten's supposed desire for more motion in the offense. They convince Shandon Anderson to sign for less money than he could have gotten in Utah in the belief that the Rocket were primed for another championship run with their big 3. The Rockets continue to revamp the roster to suit Quitten by trading for the rights to Steve Francis. During this time, Rudy tells the media that changes in the offensive scheme will accompany the changes in personnel. The stated goal of these changes are to make Quitten more comfortable and more effective in the offense. 5. A few weeks before training camp starts Quitten publicly blames Barkley (and to a lesser exent Hakeem) for the Rockets failures and his own failure to live up to his billing. In the media exchange that follows, Quitten makes the remarks that have been quoted above. 6. The Rockets team unity being destroyed, they are forced to trade Quitten to Portland for basically whatever they can get. The Rockets now have to start from ground zero with several new personnel and an offseason's worth of planning and work wasted. 7. The Rockets have an injury plagued season, never jell as a team and miss the playoffs. Quitten goes to Portland and as a starter has less minutes, points, rebounds, assists and steals than he did in the Rockets' offense. His free throw and 3-point percentages are worse. In short, he is no better in a "motion offense." There in a nutshell is why we dislike Quitten as a player. By signing with the Rockets he was rescued from a declining situation in Chicago where he was never paid his worth because of the money going to Jordan. (In fact, he was continually complaining about being underpaid in Chicago.) The Rockets paid him the max amount possible thereby righting the so-called injustices done done to him by the Bulls. Rockets fans embraced him. The team, coaches and ownership bent over backwards to accomodate him. His response was to blame others for his failure as a player, destroy team chemistry and force the Rockets into a bad trade. What is there to like about him?
JT: wonderful recap of the milestone events! And that my friends are why we call him Scottie Quitten.
Pippen said this? I always thought he's a classy guy. This epxlains why he is in jail blazer's uniform.
"I wouldn't give Charles Barkley an apology at gunpoint." ...to which Barkley blasted back with probably the best sound byte of his career... "I hope he knows that I always carry a gun with me"
I hate Charles Barkley a lot more. He alienated Clyde Drexler of all people. I'm not suprised he couldn't get along with Pippen. At some points even his relationship with Hakeem seemed strained! What the heck is up with that!? Pippen was overrated, he hasn't done much better in Portland, so I guess it wasn't the offense that was hurting him.
Clyde just couldn't stand being third fiddle. Snottie couldn't either, having finally left Jordan's shadow, but he had less class than Drexler.
dwg&dan, The Top 50 is an All-Time List! SP can't be removed. Seen him at least 100 times in person. Maybe one of the best All-Around player on the list. SP at 6-9, played Point Forward in the Triangle! He could defend all 5 positions. Sounds silly that both of you don't think he's that great and the Best of All-Time (MJ), wouldn't go to war without him. Ask Dream about SP. Those are two Great References! Took the Bulls to East Finals without MJ and guided the Blazers with his leadership. SP ended his friendship with Horace Grant because of the same scenario. Dude wanted to win bad! Learned it from MJ. Last note, he didn't marry girl that came to H with him. She left my college teamate to get with SP. She neglected to tell my teamate that she was moving out. He attempted suicide. So I'm not a Pippen worshipper. Just bringing a different perspective.
Theoretically it can. New players enter the league in the years after the list was created that will one day replace members already on the list. Guys like Bryant, McGrady, Yao, James, etc. may one day turn out to be better than a player on the list. What I'm trying to say is that the list should by dynamic, not static... or else its fallacious. It should be renamed the Top 50 players that played before year 'X'... where 'X' is the year the list was created.
Yeah, that's what started my hatred for Pippen. He turned the ball over and single handedly lost that game against the Lakers. Then he got in front of the cameras and said the reason we lost the game is because Barkley doesn't know anything about clock management. Later in the offseason he shot off his mouth about Barkley some more, and about the Rockets organization. He demanded a trade, so we shipped his sorry @$$ to Portland, and all we got in return was Carlos Rogers (who got nothing but trash time), Walt Wizard, and Kelvin Cato. Well, we also got Stacey Augmon, but we waived him & he went right back to Portland. Pippen's a wuss. Don't ever come back to Houston, Pippen, 'cause no one wants you here defouling our already-polluted air.
Nah, they won't ever change the list. If anything, they'd add to it. In another few years, there will be a Top 75 list, Top 100 list ...
I imagine you're right, seeing as how dropping people from the list wouldn't be the best publicity for the league, which was the whole reason for its creation.
Toast, Thanks for breaking it down to drapg for me. Your explanation was far better than the one I was about to post. I thought the first 50 would have to give back the Jeff Hamilton Top 50 Jackets to the NBA. Then drapg would assign new members!?
I started my post by saying "theoretically". I never once advocated it or said that the NBA would actually do it.
Hate Pippen, that just doesn't sound right to me, I'll stand behind everything Nineteen said, he's one bright guy.
because he keeps talking bad about our organization and says he regrets coming to Houston in the first place. Believe me Quitten, you're not the only one, we all regret the day you came to our fair city and cost us a series to the Fakers. Sam Smith Article from 12/31 When asked if he regrets playing in Portland, the great Quitter responds: "I don't regret going to Portland," Quitten (edited) said. "The only regret I have is going to Houston. I should have sat out the '99 season and then put myself on the market. I tried to push a deal [to the Lakers from Houston]. That's what pushed me out of Houston." go crawl back under whatever rock you slithered out from you loser!!
