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Why don't we celebrate the achievement of Earl Clark?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. heypartner

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    Shandon Anderson was a two year starter for a Finals team.

    So, what is your point. Title teams can actually be easier to start for, because all they have to do is do of a very simple role and play defense. Shandon just needed to get out of Malone's way and camp out on the weakside waiting for a pass or to cut to the basketball. Then run the fastbreak and play defense.

    He was not, and never was again, a starter-caliber player.

    There are plenty other examples of this, too.
     
  2. RedDynasty

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    But for this specific team, and this specific moment. We need a star big man. Patterson isn't that guy
     
  3. J Sizzle

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    LOL....he said "title contender".
     
  4. Kojirou

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    And Earl Clark is a star big man?
     
  5. Sydeffect

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    Patterson > Clark for sure
     
  6. RedDynasty

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    Never said that. But he's better than Patterson and Morris for sure.
     
  7. bmt1334

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    That's highly debatable. I wouldn't trade Clark for Patterson straight up, and I'm not even a fan of Patterson.
     
  8. cheke64

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    Nobody in their right mind would trade Clark for Patterson! And I ****ing hate Patterson. One more time.....patterson.
     
  9. RedDynasty

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    I like Pat, but he's inconsistent. You get Pat's shooting with Clark, but you also get his weaknesses - rebounding and defense.
     
  10. Kojirou

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    Really? Even factoring in the whole "Guys who have shot 10 3 pointers in the last 3 years do not suddenly shoot over 50% from the 3 point line for any realistic stretch of time" thing, Patterson still utterly blows Clark out of the water offensively. They're fairly similar defensively with a small edge to Patterson, and Clark's a better rebounder.

    They're fairly close and I'd say Patterson gets the advantage because he's put in a better body of work before this season compared to Clark. So do tell us how he's better than Patterson "for sure."
     
  11. cheke64

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    And clarksville blows Patterson out of this galaxy with his offense, defense, and hustle.
     
  12. RedDynasty

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    As far as production for this season alone, Patterson started off better because he actually played more. Now that Clark is playing about as much, it is being seen more that he is a more consistent rebounder and still a good enough shooter to where it's not a total dropoff from Patterson.
     
  13. Kojirou

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    Except I never use the raw numbers to judge a player. Using PER36 and efficiency statistics, Patterson blows the crap out of Earl Clark.

    Furthermore, let me ask you this question. Do you really believe that Earl Clark, a player with no real history of shooting jumpers period, whether in college or in his previous 3 seasons, will actually all of a sudden, in 1 season, become a 50%+ 3 point shooter? Heck, a 40%+ 3 pointer shooter. I doubt that there is anyone in the history of the NBA who has done even the latter.
     
  14. MourningWood

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    I wonder how many times Carl will bump this thread over the next 6 months.
     
  15. RedDynasty

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    Of course not a 50% shooter. That's pretty much unheard of. Not even the best 3 point shooters make half their threes. That's an unfair, dumb point.
    And it's no use living in the past. Regardless of what happened last year or the year before, this year Clark is shooting 50% (because he doesn't shoot that much). But when he does shoot, there is signs of a good 3 point shooter. Obviously his percentage would go down if he shot more often, but hey, Patterson is shooting 36%. But keep telling yourself that.
     
  16. Kojirou

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    I'll bet you're the kind of guy who looked at OJ Mayo's 3 point shooting at the beginning of the year and thought it meant that he had become a new player.

    The past is important because players do not go from **** jump shooters to shooting above 40% from 3 in ONE season - I challenge you to provide one player in the last 30 years who has done what you think Earl Clark is doing now. And also, you're missing my basic point: even WITH Earl Clark's massively unsustainable jump shooting so far, he's still far below Patrick Patterson offensively as the efficiency statistics show. When his jump shooting wears off, it's only going to get worse in his favor.
     
  17. RedDynasty

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    I actually didn't think that about Mayo. In fact, I was one of few who believed he would come back down to Earth. And by the way, even if Clark's shooting does go down, he still has great athleticm and rebounding, as well as defense.
     
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    Patterson pisses over Earl Clark. I'd like him over Marcus Morris though, but then again I'd take a potato over him off the bench.
     
  19. BeardsOnParade

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    Question: "why dont we celebrate the achievements of earl clark?"

    Answer: Because he is a Laker
     
  20. Kwame

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    The Earl of Clark turned into the court jester during the playoffs. Why his majesty no give us achievements to celebrate during post-season?
     

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