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Why don't Americans like football (soccer)?

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Trini Rocket, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. halfbreed

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    Wait we're changing it from average gold diggers to midtown gold diggers? This means NASCAR is out for sure. It might also put baseball above the other two sports. We'd have to redo our entire list!
     
  2. bejezuz

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    Well, my argument is local female fan favorite versus the absolute best the MLS has to offer. Each town is different. In LA, Sasha Vujacic and Luke Walton could probably even give Beckham a run for his money.
     
  3. Trini Rocket

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    Thank you!
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The ONLY thing I am contending is that American football has more scoring and more scoring chances than soccer contrary to what DD posted in an earlier post.

    As I stated in my other two posts, I enjoy watching soccer. It can be very exciting and the athletes are incredibly gifted and generally in extraordinary shape.

    And while I generally prefer to see a well-played/pitched baseball game with a score in the 4-2, 5-3 range, I think I would find an 8-7 baseball playoff game pretty exciting.
     
  5. halfbreed

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    I think if you asked a random midtown chick who Brian Ching or Stuart Holden are, you'd get a lot more right answers than you might think. I do acknowledge that if you asked about Brad Ausmus you'd get more.

    A fair response. I think the excitement level, to me, would depend on whether or not the low scoring was a result of boring, uninspired play or exciting play and close misses. So it is possible that a high scoring could be more or less exciting depending on how that score was achieved.

    I also think the fact that goals are hard to come by is what makes the sport enticing to some people. If soccer pulled an NHL and tried to create higher scoring games, the game would lose much of its luster to the established fan base.
     
  6. meh

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    I know what you're trying to say, DD, but it's still a bad comparison. For one thing, there's no "half point" for kicking within the vicinity of the goal or anything. Also, 2 points per match is the equivalent of games being 14-0, 7-0, 7-7, etc. If Football Americano is like that, I'm guessing the ratings would drop quite a bit.

    Let's face it. Among the major team sports, Soccer "points" are by far the hardest to come by.
     
  7. v3.0

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    Now you're reaching on that. I'm not gayzar but I'm willing to bet Beckham can bang Sasha and Luke's gf's if he wanted to. Together at the same time. Beckham is up there with Brad Pitt as far as drop panties power.
     
  8. mazyar

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    Because they don't appreciate it. If people play Soccer, then they know how difficult it is to score. Then every scoring opportunity becomes really exciting to them.
     
  9. ryan17wagner

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    No, ask the girl if she knows who Brian Ching or Stuart Holden is. I guarantee you the girl won't know who the Dodgers catcher is.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Exactly a goal is much more meaningful than any other score in any other sport....

    DD
     
  11. krnxsnoopy

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    I think that explains it. This is why a goal scored at a crucial soccer game is one of the most exciting moments in all of sports.
     
  12. v3.0

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    I'm not disagreeing that scoring a goal in a soccer game is tough, but do all of those soccer fans have to actually play soccer to appreciate the sport?

    And what is easier to do by yourself: hit a homerun, dunk a basketball, catch a TD pass, or kick a soccer in a goal?

    And I'm not blind to the fact that there are strategies in soccer just like the big 3 American sports. But their strategies are not as apparent and the commentators don't seem to go out of their way to explain it. What is the soccer equivalent of the pick and roll? The equivalent of a hit and run? Or a nickel defense?

    If fans understood the strategies more then they could probably follow it more closely, otherwise they just see a bunch of players running back forth kicking a soccer ball in a field and trying to kick it in goals opposite of each other.
     
  13. CometsWin

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    There's not enough scoring and scoring chances are so limited. In basketball, football, and baseball the offense is always trying to score. If a soccer team is up 2-0 they pack it in on offense a lot of times. It would be like an NBA team being up by 20 points so they only let 4 players cross half court to play offense so they don't give up any fast break points. Plus, all the flopping is lame. We hate seeing a bunch of long haired soccer players falling down all over the field as if there were a sniper in the stands.

    If soccer got rid of the offsides rule and had rules against delay of game (not attacking) then Americans would find it more interesting.
     
  14. Angkor Wat

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    Honestly, I find most low scoring sports boring. That includes the likes of soccer, baseball, and hockey.
     
  15. Trini Rocket

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    No I don't think you have to play it to appreciate it. And I understand what you're saying with regards to knowing the strategies and stuff but I think you're giving way too much credit to the casual fan in any sport. It's kind of apparent to me that many people on this board don't understand the intricacies of basketball based on the comments in the GARM. And commentators don't really explain the strategies that much in basketball either, imo. But it doesn't matter I don't think the casual fan needs to understand all that much to appreciate any sport.

    With regards to strategies in football, I think it starts with the formations. If it's a 5-4-1 or 4-4-2 or whatever (defense-midfield-offense). That tells you if the coach is planning a more defensive minded or attacking game. Then it's the way the ball advances up the pitch. Central American teams tend to play a quick crisp short passing game whereas in other parts of the world long balls are used more often. Even the substitutions have to be well thought out since only 3 are allowed.

    It truly is a great game if you give it a chance. I myself am now getting into the premier league, la liga, serie a etc. I always watched when countries play though like the world cup and euro. And of course I always support my country when whenever we play.
     
  16. Trini Rocket

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    The funny thing is though, I was talking to a couple of my boys a while back and they said the exact opposite. They said they couldn't get into basketball because they find it too easy to score and the scores are too high.
     
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    Hey - the question was asked ... "why don't I like it" ... I answered.

    I'm glad you see strategy in soccer. I don't. So, go watch a soccer game and have a cookie.
     
     
  18. Mute3427

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    For me it was a matter of exposure. It's been mentioned previously that in general we prefer to watch the best. I personally couldn't get into soccer until I found FSC and Setanta and was able to start watching live games from England and consistently watch champions league. That was maybe 5 or 6 years ago.

    I remember watching chelsea/barcelona 2nd leg in 2004 and it was after that match I realized I loved the game. In terms of sporting interest soccer comes second to only basketball.

    People just need to ditch the old cliche that soccer is boring and actually give it a chance. A real chance. That's not to say that everyone will like it, but many people I talk to hate soccer merely because they're "told" to. It's ingrained in American sporting culture sadly. We must hate soccer.
     
  19. DrewP

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    this.

    and the flopping doesn't help. When acting like you're hurt when you truly aren't becomes an integral part of your game, maybe you should take a step back and ask what it is you are rooting for.
     
  20. fmp087

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    I can't stand to watch NASCAR or baseball. However, soccer is boring too. Only the world cup is worth watching.
     

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