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Why does Rafer have the ball?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BigPun662, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. GermanRoxFan

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    i doubt it.

    and even if he does, it won't be a pg that could reduce rafer's minutes significantly.

    i also don't think that this will have any impact at all on how far the rockets will advance into the playoffs.

    look, it's pretty simple. rafer makes about 35 % of his 3ps. that are the open shots he'll be getting when the opponents double off of him and that's the shots he needs to make. now 35 % is clearly not great but it's adequate. so, if the rockets are healthy and playing great, rafer won't make any difference either way because he's just one role player and probably only the 6th or 7th best player on the team. the rockets are going as far as t-mac, yao and ron are taking them.

    if the rockets are in a position where rafer alston's scoring is a key factor for success in the playoffs other players won't have done their job and the rockets' chances on winning anything at would be already pretty much non existent.
     
  2. Da Wink

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    It's possible but not really optimistic about it...if we trade Rafer, it could be a package with one of our major players or a one on one swap for another PG..
     
  3. rocketman1979

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    because he's our starting point guard. :D
     
  4. krosfyah

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    hallelujah

    Been saying this for years and everybody always argues with me.

    Rafer is good enough ...if TMac and/or Yao and/or Ron are playing like hall-of-fame type players. If those guys aren't playing well, then Rafer is irrelevant anyway. If those guys ARE playing at a high level, Rafer will be fine.
     
  5. King1

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    What a dumb thread. Of all the times to start a thread about Rafer (and there have been plenty) you choose the night where we would have clearly lost the game without him. Wafer's shot was off last night. Yao did a great job. Brooks was absolutely terrible.
     
  6. krosfyah

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    WORD.

    Some folks just like to be miserable ...even after a win.

    Folks yell at Rafer when he loses games ...and yell at him when we wins them. lol.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    did kg, ray, or pierce play at HOF levels in the playoffs last yr in every series? no.

    they needed rondo to play well for the most part and he did.

    you really think if those 3 play well and rafer shoots 32% we can beat the great teams?
     
  8. King1

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    Wow. You must have missed Paul Pierce's performance last season or just be clueless. Pierce's performance last year was definitely HOF caliber. What series were you watching again?
     
  9. King1

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    Yeah, it's sad. It's becoming that way with Battier too. Honestly, there are so many new members that just don't know anything about basketball. Look at the poster who spoke about the Boston Celtics when quoting your post. There's no way he could have watched a second of the NBA Finals and make a comment like that.
     
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  10. krosfyah

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    lol.

    I guess you missed all the talk after Peirce got the finals MVP and he declared himself the best player on earth. Now granted, I think that was a stretch ...but the dude was balling.

    As proof of my point, Kobe definitely played subpar. Peirce clearly outplayed Kobe. Result? Boston wins.

    Championship teams first have one player at a HOF level. Start worrying about TMac and Ron and once they start giving us lines like 25/7/7, then lets resume our talks about Rafer. Until that time, Rafer's play is irrelevant.
     
  11. kwng

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    I am Rafer is shooting well again in the Heat game. He was awful (bricking) for a while. Now what happened to Brooks?? His las two game was awful and his shots were gone (has he hit the wall again?)
     
  12. BigPun662

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    Geez, you blind fans. The point is (and I really hope I'm wrong) that Rafer Alston will not help Houston win a ring. One of you mentioned that Tmac called Rafer our "floor general". Woopty freaking doo! That's a lot of credibility. And yes we pick on Rafer when he plays well or when he plays horrible, we're consistent. If you know basketball and you like Rafer, then something is terribly wrong with you. The only person who believed in Rafer is JVG and that's why he's ringless.
     
  13. King1

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    You clearly know more basketball then JVG right?
     
  14. BigPun662

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    There comes a time when you need to be a little more realistic and not a fanatic. When Tmac struggles, it only magnifies Rafer's many inabilities, which are many.
     
  15. thacabbage

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    Don't hold your breath. The frustrating thing about Rafer is that instead of sucking eternally, he plays brilliant (relatively speaking) once every 8 or 9 games, allowing him to stay alive for the next string of sucky games.

    I would much rather see him just suck every game because this guy is absolutely killing us out there. I know I'm preaching to the choir on this though with you.
     
  16. thacabbage

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    I disagree. If they do, it will be for a backup, cutting into AB's minutes, something I don't want to see.

    Rafer won't be losing his starting position because he then becomes completely worthless. He gives you nothing off the bench. Morey won't just allow that $6million slot to become dead weight.
     
  17. BigPun662

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    i agree. i havent seen such an inconsistent starting PG in my life....it could be worse, at least luther head isnt playing. the rafer and luther starting back court would make me vomit....

    the pointless starting point guards
    rafer
    maloney
    recasner
     
  18. A_3PO

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    Morey doesn't care about Rafer's $6 million slot. Using that reasoning, I guess we must pencil him in as the starter for next season too. Do you believe that?

    My point is that going into the playoffs with the Rafer/AB combo at PG is tantamount to surrender. The Rockets have a piece of trash starter and an unreliable backup. I expect something to get done.
     
  19. dbdb49

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    ANYBODY ON THE TEAM IS BETTER THAN RAFER EVEN TUMBO

    THE GUY THAT MADE THIS THREAD IS BETTER THAN WAFER ALSTON
     
  20. LabMouse

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    Rafer? What should I say for him? Even he played well last night, you can see him make stupid plays one after another, several TOs, force shots, luckily, the ball went in, and we win the game. The guy is just not a smart PG, and when he is playing, he wants to show something by forcing a play rather than let the game come to him, and the biggest problem is that the player like Barry who refuses to shoot the ball, and pass the ball to Rafer in the last sec.
     

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