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Why does Lowry think he's a 3pt shooter?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RedRedemption, Jan 21, 2011.

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  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    But

    But

    But....I thought replacing Brooks with Lowry was going to clear all that up?

    LOL...Larvs8, where you at? Who was it that was saying PG D is not as important as bigs in the paint? Oh yeah, me and you !

    DD
     
  2. pkothari1013

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    So I remember Daryl Morey stating explicitly that if Kyle Lowry had an open shot, he was encouraged to take it. One can assume from recent games that Kyle Lowry has just unfortunately missed some of those open shots, but in my opinion, the more pressing matters are:

    1) Lowry THINKS he is open and wants to be a hero by making a glorious 3 pointer, and
    2) Somehow, the shot clock winds down and the ball sadly ends up in Lowry's hands.

    *sigh. :(
     
  3. Dreamin

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    Lowry and Miller started the season blazing from the 3 point line. But they are starting to come back down to earth. Lee had a period where he was smoking too, since then he has come back down to earth as well. Bud is still streaky. martin is the only consistant 3 point shooter.

    Aldeman and Morey value open shots rather than contested shots. So as long gusy are open on 3s and 18 footers, its considered high percentage shots. Naturally opponents wouldnt mind you shooting from that far out. They pay more attention to protecting the paint.

    Move the ball around until some one is open far from from the rim to jack up a shot. That is good ball movement in Aldeman and Moreys world. Aldeman and Morey love it and encourage this mentality.

    Aldeman and Morey discourages challenging opponents to score, he doesnt want you to be brave and take anyone on. So creating off the dribble and taking it to the rim or working off the elbow in the post and other plays which lead to scoring in the paint are discouraged because the closer you get to the basket the more contested it becomes. And you become less si$$y. Thats a no no for Aldeman, everyon must be as pansy as he is.

    Thats why Aldeman wants YAO to be FAR away from the basket at top of the key or 3 point line like Brad MIller. Aldmean never liked YAO taking on guys down low in the post. Lee and Lowry are jacking up stupid shots instead of taking it to the rim. Scola doesnt work the ball down low as much as he used to, he now reverts to long 18 footers. List goes on and on .....
     
  4. RedRedemption

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    That's cool and all, but who is Aldeman? ;)
     
  5. flamingdts

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    Well we aren't going to win every game......

    Let's not knee jerk already.
     
  6. Wolfpack101

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    He's not knee-jerking. Kyle is not nearly the defender you guys make him out to be. Honestly he is BARELY better than AB, and he only is better than AB because he is a pest (hustles for loose balls and what not). Man-on-man defense they are not much different. You guys bring up the Patty Mills incident frequently but when Lowry defended him he got lit up as well. They both are below average defenders.
     
  7. W22_STREAK

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    I think everyones just comparing them to Lindsey Hunter...come on guys...lowry is a very good defender compared to ab
     
  8. flamingdts

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    He was not lit up by Patty Mills for that matter.

    And you are knee-jerking. The difference in defence between Lowry and AB is laughable.
     
  9. blathersby

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    He was probably told to shoot threes. So he's shooting them. And he's probably been told to shoot through a slumb so he's shooting through it.
    Thread over. Easy.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Not knee jerking, it is just reality, Lowry's defense is not all that great....

    His lack of lateral quickness is a hinderence against good PGs....they blow right by him...even average ones blow by him....

    He is great on guys trying to post him up, but most PGs don't play that way.

    His D is vastly overated, it is much better than AB's....but it is not that important in today's NBA.

    Yes, he was !

    AB gave up 14 points to Mills and it was his career high....on a bum ankle, so the next Portland game, AB sat out......and Lowry guarded Mills, well, guess what? 14 points again.....

    But, don't let the facts get in your way.

    DD
     
  11. Houston22

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    Lowry's defense was bad last game. Conely started to heat up and Lowry just let him continue.
    And that 3pointer at the end of the game had me raging too. Martin was asking for ball and Lowry chose to go around and take a three himself. That play cost us a game right there..
     
  12. tdavis2324

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    Because his teammates said it themselves. He's the best shooter in practice by far.
     
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    Lowry would probably be closer to 40% if he didn't have to shoot the bail out shots when his teammates can't get open when the shotclock winds down.
     
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    I like how he's more confident with his shots now but I totally prefer him driving to the hoop to screw with the other teams' defense and score or kick it out for a high percentage shot......like last season. leave the 3pts for k-mart, battier, AB, and chase
     
  15. danoman

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    let him play his game so we can see who needs to go ab or lowry
     
  16. co-nan

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    Actually, defense and attack are related to each other.
    We are good at transition attack but not good at defense it. Almost all the teams are not good at defense transition balls. So what we need to do is making proper shots and not leave the opponents opportunities of transition balls. That is why Spurs have good defense.

    While now we do not have superstar, we can not make sure we can attack effectively, especially in 4th quarter, we always can not make the ball move and hence alway improper shots. That is why we have bad 4th quarters.

    Look at those games we won. either is that we can defense well and hence have lots of opportunities of transition or that we have great 3point percentage and hence leave few opportunities of transition to opponents.
     
  17. flamingdts

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    LOL

    I love how you always complain stats provide only a small picture of the whole story, but whenever you have the chance you always use stats to reinforce your arguments.

    Patty Mills hit FOUR 3 pointers in that game. If I recall 3 of them were near the end of the third quarter and the fourth quarter. Kyle Lowry played 39 minutes that game. Was he gassed out? Probably, did he let Mills blow by him? Not at all. I watched the game and I watched Lowry's defence. Mills was hot that game, and 12 of his 14 points were from 3 pointers.

    On the other hand, Patty Mills only sunk two 3 pointers against Aaron Brooks, he was blowing by and scoring on Brooks at will. Only 6 points of that 14 came from 3 pointers.

    Am I excusing Lowry for letting Mills drop 14 on him? Nope, but Lowry was not "lit up" by Patty Mills. He was not letting Mills "blow by him".

    Of course, don't let facts get in your way right. Mills scored 14 points twice! One against Brooks and another agains Lowry! That MUST mean Lowry is just as bad as Brooks. That must mean Mills was blowing past Lowry! Nevermind the fact that all of Mills' 3 point shots were assisted, never mind Lowry's help defence.
     
  18. MourningWood

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    How do you explain his one-sided performance against CP3 last week... he locked up one of the league's best:

    Paul -- 43 MIN, 11 PTS, 8 ASTS, 5 TOs.

    Lowry -- 45 MIN, 28 PTS, 6-6 FT, 6 RBS, 7 ASTS, 2 TOs.

    Jarrett Jack, Paul's backup, torched Brooks in the 2nd quarter for 10+ points.

    But, don't let the facts get in your way.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Lowry played excellent that game....fantastic....I wish he was that consistent all the time...

    DD
     
  20. Houston22

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    What about Conely yesterday? He got by Lowry whenever he wanted.
    I've seen Lowry defending much better..
     

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