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Why does LeCHOKE lose the Midas Touch?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by iam, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. cebunit

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    Op trolling hard or he's 12 years old.
     
  2. domd221

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    Let's not forget Ray Allen's game tying 3 wouldn't be possible without headband-less LeBron's shooting during the 4th quarter comeback. Yes he was "LeChoke" 2 years ago when he was garbage against Dirk, but you can't call him "LeChoke" now, especially after 2 championships. He may not be the most clutch, but he does so many other things most stars aren't willing to do to win the game.
     
  3. eddiewinslow

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    i dont know lebron is good and everything but i wouldnt trade lin and parsons for him, maybe consider it if miami threw in a future first but otherwise id rather have lin and parsons lebron is overrated
     
  4. atamirisa

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    He's gonna go down as one of the top 5 greatest to ever play. He has two rings, is shooting above 50% (which for a 3 guard is ridiculous), led his teams to 2 championships, got 4 MVPs in the process, and hit a key jumper in game 7 of the finals in the 4th quarter to seal the championship. I think all the nicknames can stop at this point.
     
  5. iam

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    I don't disagree with anything you say. We can agree that he can't make jumpshots in the 4th quarter. Key jumper in game 7? He tried 3 times and made 1. And he missed the other two off the backboard, which is the only reason why it was rebounded by Miami.

    Can someone show me proof he can make jumpshots in the 4th quarter? This isn't a small sample size, and this isn't from 2010, this was last year. Everyone can clamor how he is the GOAT and whatnot. Choking on jumpshots may prevent him from ever trumping Jordan.
     
  6. AFS

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    LeBron shot 40% from 3 during the season and 38% from 3 during the playoffs. He's also pretty much the best finisher around the rim in the league. When he can do that, you pretty much just have to pick your poison.
     
  7. iam

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    Again, the topic said, Why does LeChoke lose the Midas Touch.

    He shoots 50% from 3 and long 2's in the first quarter.

    He can't make them in the 4th. Tell me something I don't know. Since when does choking relate to the 1st quarter?
     
  8. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    First bolded = now you're just reaching.

    Second bolded = what does that have to do with anything? And Shaq was one of the most dominant big men to ever play.

    I'm really confused as to the point of this thread. I'd rather have LeBron James on my team, at the end of the game, than the most clutch of players, because I'll know LeBron has dominated the game thus far.
     
  9. iam

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    Look, in game 7, with 25 seconds left, LeBron attempts 3 3-pointers. He bricks 2 of them, it barely grazed the rim and hit just the backboard. That was the only reason why they could rebound it.

    Secondly, look, LeBron seems to be an awesome jump shooter in the 1st quarter. Yet when it comes to the 4th quarter, he shoots 30%. There's something going on mentally in his head. There is no reason why he can't shoot above 45%... since he's the greatest player on Earth!
     
  10. atamirisa

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    There's no comparison, he's not trying to be MJ. Even MJ choked. He missed more than 9000 shots in my career, lost almost 300 games. 26 times, He's been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. He's failed over and over and over again in his life. And that is why he succeeded.
     
  11. atamirisa

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    Yes, my career. Not his. Mine.
     
  12. iam

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    That's not the point. I posted these statistics to see if anyone has a clue why LeBron shoots so well in the 1st quarter vs. the 4th quarter.

    Sure it could be fatigue, it could be mental, would love to hear someone's conjecture besides mine.
     
  13. atamirisa

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    A combo of fatigue and quadruple-teaming by the opponent
     
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    Michael Jordan was a career 33.2% three-point shooter in the playoffs.

    LeBron going 1/3 in the game you are specifically mentioning puts his 4th quarter percentage right at Michael Jordan's career playoff average.
     
  15. iam

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    We all know LeBron knows every single stat about himself. I do not think it's a coincidence that he purposely passes up jumpshots to wide open teammates in the 4th quarter.

    Part of it is that he does not want to take the big shot. The other part of it is, he knows statistically he is terrible in the 4th at jump shots and knows he's better off by passing the ball.
     
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    Don't bother. He's one of those morons that will try to find any way to criticize LeBron to prop up Kobe and/or Jordan.

    • LeBron shoots 90% in the clutch and misses a crucial jumper. LeBron can't hit the ones that count.
    • LeBron misses every other shot but hits the big ones. Well if LeBron hit his other shots the game wouldn't be close.
    • LeBron shoots 100% in the 4th. Oh well why doesn't LeBron shoot like this in the first quarter?
    • LeBron scores 100 points per game. What a ballhog!
    • LeBron nabs 20 assists per game. What a p***y! Too afraid to shoot!
    • LeBron blows out teams within the first three quarters and rests in the 4th. He has no heart, he's too scared to go out there.
    • LeBron passes away in 50-60 years and its on the news everywhere. What a media w****. Why couldn't he just pass away quietly like super humble super amazing super talented Durant?
    There is no satisfying biased Kobe and Jordan only fans.

    Here's another prime example of LeBron hate that was prevalent during last year's playoffs: LeBron's clutch layup past Paul George was not clutch because it was a layup. REALLY? Every clutch shot has to be a jumper? That's news to me.
     
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  18. atamirisa

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    That's not true at all. Contrary to what you believe he knows the strengths and weaknesses of his teammates. He has an uncanny ability to get them the ball in their sweet spot. I remember a game when lebron had the ball at the end of the game, drove, and kicked it to haslem for a 12 ft jumper at the buzzer and Haslem missed. It was either take a contested shot (low percentage) or get it to your wide open teammate who makes that shot in his sleep. That time it didn't pan out but he's def not afraid to take the shot, he just plays the percentages, which is why he stopped shooting as many 3s
     
  19. supdudes

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    What an unexpected thread.

    All I can say on this matter is that LeBron plays his role on his team perfectly.

    You have to keep in mind that w/ Miami, they have two great clutch players in Ray Allen and Wade. I don't think LBJ's biggest concern in a close game is hitting a mid to long range jumper. More likely than not, he's going to attack off the dribble. The fact that he's a very good jump shooter only exacerbates the fact that he's a beast when attacking the rim.
     
  20. supdudes

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    exacerbates the chances of the opposing team, that is.
     

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