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Why does everyone continues to bash Rafer....

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by KAS13, Dec 26, 2006.

  1. Dr of Dunk

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    Hey Amel, no offense man, but if you're going to post a "For Dummies" graphic, you may want to understand the proper use of "than" vs. "then"... just sayin'...


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  2. arkoe

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    Definitely pissed me off to see him take that inbounds pass at the end of the game.
     
  3. olliez

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    I suspect Rafer has some sort of degenerative shooting desease
     
  4. WhoMikeJames

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    Because he misses important 3 pointers and misses ft's.
     
  5. WhoMikeJames

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    Exactly what i was thinking.
     
  6. Amel

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    I knew it, thanks for the heads up....I was thinking is it than or then? my grammar is not perfect, sorry about that :D
     
  7. kerry Mckee

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    Because he sucks, most of the time like tonight. 4 for 18 shooting from the field and 2 for 6 from the free throw line for your starting point guard. He should never, i mean never take more than 10 shots in a game. Does he think he's Steve Nash or somebody. Brick, after brick after brick! I almost kicked in the big screen to stop the little idiot from shooting those bricks. :mad:
     
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    Did anyone hear Clyde say something about his "black horse pick for the All Star game"? He said this just before Rafer missed two free throws. :D
     
  9. macfan

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    LMAO

    THe expression is "dark horse". Even Clyde is not bad enough to say "black horse", but he's bad enough to say "rafer could be an allstar"

    We talked about that during the game. Sometimes it makes you wonder how Clyde had what it took to win. Or perhaps he's prone to brain freezes
     
  10. A_3PO

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    On basketball matters, Clyde says some idiotic stuff and embarrasses himself without even knowing it.
     
  11. JaWindex

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    It's funny how his basketball player character differs from his commentator character. As a commentator he's like a friendly grandfather who treads on nobody but as a player he dunked on anybody in his way. I think if he loosened up, he'd be alright.
     
  12. DVauthrin

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    4-18 from the floor tonight. For the season inside the 3 pt line: 71-177=40%.
    Not good. Worrell mentioned over and over his confidence with his shot was toast, and he even was 1-5 from the line at one point.

    He never should have been on the court in those last few minutes.
     
  13. tigermission1

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    He had plenty of those 'brain freezes' in crucial moments in his last few seasons with the Rox, but I will leave that alone...

    I am just glad that everyone is starting to come around on Rafer...he's simply not a starting-caliber PG on a team with championship aspirations, he's without question our weakest link.

    This team and this system the Rox have needs a PG of the Mike James/Chucky Atkins mold, not the Rafer Alston mold.

    You can't even call him a "pure point guard", because if you did no one will ever take you seriously again.

    We have to address it somewhere down the line, it's not an emergency situation or anything as long as McGrady is healthy and playing, but that -- and perhaps even more urgently adding some size/quality depth to the PF position -- is a problem that needs our attention.
     
  14. olliez

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    People should not be blinded by his 3-pointer %, the guy is a streaky shooter, the trouble is, usually when he is hot, the Rockets is losing the game, thus his points are pure garbage. I was under the illusion Rafer sometime in his later life will learn the duty of point guard, but sadly
     
  15. Yodels

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    We need someone who can keep turnovers low first and foremost. I think Rafer is better than most with this.

    Being a low percentage outside shooter can be minimized by taking less shots. I also think Rafer is decent when he catches and shoots. Off the dribble he misses even easy ones near the free throw line. If he limits his outside shots to those he absolutely must take I think we'll be fine--this was Dennis Johnson's game back in '86.

    His penetration is OK especially when he kicks but if he trys to lay it up he has a tough time finishing.

    I think his problems are correctable given some time to work on them. Just like Yao & Juwon, he seems like a hard worker that wants to get better.

    That being said it can't hurt to have competition at the position.
     
  16. TRAVLR

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    Good post, I agree with this. I was at the game last night and truly thought he was 4 0f 20. I was angry with his shot selection, although when they swing the ball to an open Rafer, he pretty much needs to shoot it. It's the other shots, beating his man off the dribble and then just throwing the ball near the rim has got to stop. The guy can't finish a drive to save his life.

    The grabbing the ball and waiting to be fouled at the end of the game after bricking two free throws was just vintage Rafer. He must think he is much better than he really is. He is not a deal breaker for the Rockets, but I sure wish we could do better. If he would just shoot less I wouldn't be so frustrated by him. What is he 8 of 33 over the last two games....?
     
  17. Deckard

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    He shoots too damn much when he's off, which is a lot of the time.

    A sample...

    4-10
    4-13
    4-11
    2-8
    4-16
    4-10
    4-15
    6-17
    0-4
    6-16
    4-12
    4-10
    2-8
    8-22
    8-20
    4-15
    4-18

    Now remember that we've only played 31 games. This sample size is 17 of them. I don't have much of a problem with the 4-10 games, or even the 2-8 ones. He shot less, and he takes a lot of 3s, but the guy, far too often, DOESN'T KNOW WHEN TO STOP SHOOTING THE ****ING BALL!!!
     
  18. DallasThomas

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    LOL :D

    Hey, the 4-10's and the 8-20 are still 40%, though. But is it acceptable for a role player to shoot 20+ times on occasion if he's doing it at an effective rate?
     
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    Rafer is now shooting 37% from the field through 31 games. Just extrapolating numbers, he will have to shoot right at 50% from the field for the rest of the season to raise his shooting percentage to 45% from the field for the season. Does anybody think that will happen?

    His shooting percentage from 3 point land is drifting down as well. It is currently a little over 35% for the year while taking over six 3 point shots per game. He'll have to get the same number of 3 point attempts per game and knock them down at a 40% clip to move his 3 point shooting percentage over 38% for the season. Does anybody think that will happen?

    Does anybody think that if VSpan were playing Rafer's minutes, he would be taking six 3 point shots per game? Or would he be taking the ball to the hole probably at least 4 of those 6 shots and either getting a layup or creating a much higher percentage shot for others?
     
  20. Mordo

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    It results in a turnover when Rafer attempts his crappy teardrops and multliple bricks. Rafer's shots result in a turnover usually. It wouldn't be so bad if he shot less. Andre Miller can't shoot the 3, but you don't see him going for 6 3's a game.

    Keep Rafer to less than 8 attempts a game and bench him if he attempts a shot instead of setting up a play early in the clock.
     
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