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Why do you rarely see mixed couples where the guy is of Asian descent?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Oct 12, 2003.

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  1. Another Brother

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    I am not as vocal in this thread because I am not Asian. That is a problem here, sometimes people lend their whack a** opinions to situations and conditions they know nothing about.

    I cannot comment on the "Asian Invasion" because I am not that familiar with club activity. However, if someone referred to a "Black Invasion" in some "white" club, I would have taken issue primarily because in dance clubs most of the music is by black artists, right? I guess my question would be, who is invading whom?
     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    I kind of disagree with that (we had a similar discussion before). With some exceptions, you can tell right from wrong, and you don't have to be a member of a particular group to be able to do that.

    Let's say you are a judge - then you will have to be able to see injustice against a black (Asian, whatever) person no matter whether you are also black (Asian, whatever) or not.

    Actually, would it not be much better if people were more concerned objectively with what is right or wrong instead of only being interested when they themselves are concerned? Would their voice not have more weight because nobody could say that they are only fighting for the matter out of self-serving motives?
     
  3. Another Brother

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    There are no laws with regard to public opinion and social interaction, right or wrong is subjective...sadly.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I understand the point you are trying to make, but I don't think a person who fights for the rights of one particular group has to be a champion for all group's rights. If I view something as an injustice towards blacks, what I feel about another issue concerning another group of people, has no bearing on the issue I am that I support.

    Let's say that I am championing the cause of black coaches in the NFL. Now if my position is that black coaches don't get a fair opportunity at head coaching positions, how does my view about the rights of Migrant workers in California change anything about the issue on black coaches. It may make me look better as a person, but it still doesn't change the fact that black coaches may or may not be given fair opportunities at the job.

    My point is that you may think less of me as a champion of equal rights, but that shouldn't change your view on the issue of black coaches in the NFL. So it may hurt my character, but if I prove that black coaches in the NFL aren't given equal chances, than regardless of how you feel about the messenger, if my message is right, then the situation still has to be addressed.

    If Johnnie Cochran is representing black coaches, and he proves his case, it doesn't matter if he isn't a champion for all causes. If he proves his case, he has done his job. And I'm not referring to the actual court room, I'm just referring to the public.

    When I argue about something on this site, I'm not trying to impress people with my character, I'm just trying to prove my point, so while you may view my motives as self-serving, if I prove my point, I have accomplished what I intended to do.

    Now if you ask me how do I feel about Migrant Workers in California, and instead of saying it's not my concern, and I say they don't deserve any rights, then that my hurt my point because I may look like a hypocrite.
     
  5. F.D. Khan

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    With the Asian Club Invasion thing, I don't think its racist, I think its a social group within the race.

    There are many Orientals who go to clubs and its fine, but it changes when the groups of the Oriental Gangsta's show up by first sending a few scouts then a horde of 30 guys and 3 girls all not dancing, not smiling and waiting to get into a fight so then can have 20 people jump on one or two guys.

    It is crap. If there were groups of white boys, blacks or any race doing this, then I would feel the same. Many places get filled with trashy people of all races and that causes a crowd to have to go somewhere else. Its not race, but its the actions of this group that happen to be oriental that creates the situation that ruins many great bars and clubs.
     
  6. F.D. Khan

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    On the same token, I never go downtown (Cabo/M-Bar Area) on a Saturday either. Its a hellhole thats been taken over by Baggy pant Indians and trashy latin people from Pasadena that shifted there from 'cruisin' richmond.
     
  7. Mulder

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    OK, I'm gonna try and help you out here just in case you ever to talk to an Asian person.

    Oriental is the word you use to describe inanimate objects, like rugs.

    Asian is the word you use to describe people of a certain geographic/cultural background.

    Maybe those Asian guys and girls looked pissed cuz you called them Orientals.
     
  8. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Now you're just being P.C. How dare you be P.C.?
     
  9. El_Conquistador

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    You are talking about hip-hop clubs only. This is only one small segment of the club scene. I'd say the bulk of the club scene is lounge/electronica/trance music which has little to no black influence.
     
  10. F.D. Khan

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    Well Asia, my geographically insensitive friend, is made up of the Middle East, Russia, the Indian Subcontinent as well as the Orient. When you say Asian, it encompasses groups that I am not talking about. Screw the PC garbage. I'm not talking about groups of gangsta-russians or gangsta-arabs, i'm talking abour ORIENTAL people. Vietnamese/Chinese etc.
     
  11. Mulder

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    If it seriously offends the people you are describing it is not just being P.C. Oriental is a term used to describe OBJECTS not people. P.C is "women" spelled with a y, saying fat people are "calorically challenged", saying that short people are "height challenged". This is slightly different.
    Is it P.C. to refrain from calling African Americans "colored" or is just that they are more vocal?
     
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    You want to insult ASAIANS even though you have been told and I am the one being insensitive? Indian, Pakistani, and Azerbijianis ARE ASIAN, I know that. As I have stated before, I KNOW people from these regions and they describe themselves as ASIAN. I didn't just read it in a book. Since you probably can't tell the difference between someone who is Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, etc, it might be a good idea to at least lump them into a group and use the correct term. Otherwise those ASIAN gangsters might just kick your ass.
     
  13. Nomar

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    Of course it has something to do with them being black.

    I swear to God, since coming home from college at the beginning of last summer, nearly every movie I went to had a disturbance during the movie and it was always caused by a black person.

    Examples:

    Bad Boys 2. A man a few rows up slept the entire movie, and snored so loud that I could hear him over the ridiculously loud Michael Bay special effects. His mother?, sister? kept nudging him awake every 5 minutes, then he would continue to sleep. This pattern continued throughout.

    The Hulk, X-Men 2, T3. We have a guy that has a conversation on his cell phone. The worse case was during Hulk. The guy got a call about half way through, proceeded to talk on the phone for 10 minutes, then at the end of the conversation says "Yeah man, when you figure that **** out, hit me back with a call." He then gets a call back, and converses again. Repeat 3 more times until the end. Nobody says a word, because the theater I go to is all rich white upper upper class and we are either 1) too "classy", 2) too p***y, or a combination of the two.

    Charlie's Angels. About 10 minutes in, a group of about 20 people comes in, and meets up with friends in the first 3 rows. They actually make these 5 high school kids move out of their seats and go find seats somewhere else so that they can sit with their entire group of 30.

    I could go on and on.

    The point is that what I'm saying is unacceptable, but what BlackSheep or whoever is saying about "Asian Invasion" IS acceptable.

    Why is that?
     
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    Then it's East Asians NOT Oriental.
     
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    eh...you are blowing smoke out your...
     
  16. Rocketman95

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    I was being sarcastic. I completely agree with you.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    First of all, I have not really understood from the examples in your post why all these things could not have been done by a non-black person as well, in other words, I still don't understand why it does have something to do with them being black...

    Answering your question, I find what you said about these black people and the Asian invasion thing equally acceptable/unacceptable.
     
  18. F.D. Khan

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    Just might kick my ass?? Hahha....That is exactly WHY I leave when these LOSERS show up. To make up for their inability to talk to women, they have to try to fight with guys like me because they want my mojo!
     
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    Hip hop clubs are the only clubs that have music with black influence? Man, I gotta get out more.:rolleyes:
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

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    Another Brother, pgabriel, I am kind of curious about this one, so it would be great if you could answer it...thanks.
     

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