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Why do the media let hillary play the gender card?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocket3forlife2, Mar 5, 2008.

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  1. MadMax

    MadMax Member

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    don't let yourself be sucked in to that. :D

    jorge is scared of obama in a general election. that's why they're urging people to vote for hillary in the primaries.
     
  2. real_egal

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    I could be wrong. But according to CNN, Republicans voting did have an impact in democrats primary, and the majority went to Obama last night. Not sure whether those republicans will stay with Obama in general elections. But it seems odd anyways, that if Dem primary is decided by GOP.

    Company A wants to buy company B, then employees of company A vote in company B to approve that deal, and company A ends up buying company B. It sounds great, for company A, I guess it must be good for company B as well.
     
  3. ymc

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    Our country is divided anyway. It won't change overnight with Obama's sweet talk.

    Obama doesn't need to play race card because the African Americans are voting him 9 to 1. Also, playing race card gives him not much advantage because the African American bloc is small compare to the white women bloc. It is just politics. We don't need to sweat it. :cool:
     
  4. rocket3forlife2

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    I'm not sure about that if you watched fox news people there were 1500 emails so far at 9am that said they listen to rush Limbaugh and voted for Hillary.



    Again why would she keep bringing up at her rally’s that women scored another victory and she is doing this for women every where and get away with it...What I’m saying is obama couldn't do the same because he would loose a lot of his support, but Hillary is the one claming that the media is treating her unfair, but last I checked cnn was pro Clinton, fox news where pushing her because their are republican network, and msn turned negative on him doing the last week. Plus she was on snl and the daily show where the spoof made obama look like an idiot when he handled her doing the last 2 debates pretty easily.



    The reason she got allot of negative press is because she has been going negative to begin with...plus the Clintons already have a history of dirt, so why the media fell for her saying she was being treated unfairly is crazy.
     
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    Hillary is running to beat Obama instead of running to win the candidacy. If she's not careful it's gonna hurt our party in the general election whether she is the nominee or not.
     
  6. deepblue

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    I don't see anything wrong with Hillary trying to rally her base (which are the white women voters).
    You know, reinforcing the reason why her base should vote for her.
     
  7. real_egal

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    I don't understand where this constant complaint about "negative campaign" or "negative ad" coming from. It's election, and it's politics. In every single ad, when the candidate talks about themselves, it's all positive, including Obama; when they talk about the opponents, it's all negative, including Obama. What do people expect? Show me one ad from Obama, and one single email distribution from Obama camp, when they talk about Clinton, they are solely praising her. Are they negative? Sure, his supporters will spin that as comparison and critics, but what's different from Clinton's "negative ads"? Phone ad at 3 am claiming she's ready and he's not, is fear-mongering? Geez, we have some very fragile hearts here. How is that not just political ads as every single one?

    Every single Pepsi ad mentioning Coca Cola is either an underhanded jab or a back-handed compliment or straight bashing, what's different in any other ads comparing to Clinton's or Obama's? Yet, analyst whine and moan about Clinton's "going negative", as if Clinton should be the cheerleader for Obama.
     
  8. bucket

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    What? Obama needs to "come clean" and "admit" that he's getting a lot of votes from blacks "to restore his integrity"? What's wrong with getting votes from blacks, T_J? Can you not see how that sentiment comes across as racist, especially from someone who's called him "Balack Hussein Obama"?
     
  9. Deckard

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    You're probably wasting your time. Ms. Clinton is as evil as Karl Rove. She's all negative and the Obama campaign is sweetness and light. She's a harlot and a greedy b****. So say some Democrats who support Mr. Obama. Funny how it's OK for them to be as negative towards Ms. Clinton as any Rovian Republican, but not OK for Ms. Clinton to run an rather ordinary primary campaign for the nomination.

    And she's supposed to "come clean" about appealing to women? You've GOT to be kidding me!! Just when I thought I'd read everything.



    Impeach Bush.
     
  10. pgabriel

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    ugh, you didn't read that, try again

    hillary gets to say vote for me, i'm a woman, if obama said vote for me, we need a black president, he would be crucified
     
  11. Achilleus

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    You're probably wasting your time.
     
  12. Deckard

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    I get that. You think I don't? I've always assumed that a part of his message for "change" was electing our first Black President. I'm wrong? Being the first woman President is part of Ms. Clinton's message. I don't see the confliction here, folks.



    Impeach Bush.
     
  13. pgabriel

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    yes, but i suspect you won't admit that
     
  14. B-Bob

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    Hyperbole much?

    That's in no way a fair expression of my stance, and you dismayed posts at my views, painting them as idiotic, are not balanced by a parenthetical (all due respect). I am a Democrat who supports, and will continue to support, Obama. I do not and have not thought or said that Hillary is a "harlot," and so on and so forth. She is a win-at-all-costs politician, and in my view, she has a personality that will lose the general election.

    I can express displeasure with Hillary without mocking your views. And I have done so. I don't begrudge people for supporting her -- she's skilled, intelligent and knows the terrain.

    However, Hillary literally mocked my vote, my optimism and my hope. That's fine -- it's her tactic, and it so happens that it doesn't work for me.

    I hope you, however, will not mock my views, if you can avoid it. Does none of us any good, except you know who.

    (exits forum)
     
  15. deepblue

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    He doesn't need to say it, he already got 90% of the black vote. If Hillary has 90% of the women vote, she wouldn't say anything.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    so yo're okay with hillary playing the gender card, but you have problem with black voters voting the way they want to?

    also notice you still can't answer my question even though I bull headedly continue to answer all of your ridiculous senarios
     
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    You think that Senator Obama's message for change doesn't include electing our nation's first Black President? It is implied every time he steps onto a podium, as is Senator Clinton's when she gets up to speak. And I have absolutely no problem with it, with either of them. What is always a significant part of any long conversation, in "real life," about the two of them? Him being the first Black President and her being the first woman President. Are you saying this isn't true? And are you seriously saying it isn't in the calculus of both their campaigns? Come on, pgabriel... you really think that isn't the case?



    Impeach Bush.
     
  18. pgabriel

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    how? there are black politicians, he wants to change politics. now what's your reasoning other than, "oh its obvious, he's black"

    I don't mean to be rude, but until he comes out and says this you cannot claim this. remember, this is the guy who wasn't black enough
     
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    B-Bob, I never said you said those things. I expressed surprise that you would consider voting for McCain or not voting to voting for her, were she the nominee. I wasn't mocking your views at all. And I have read those things here, in one form or another. Certainly not by you.



    Impeach Bush.
     
  20. deepblue

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    I have no problem with either. I am pointing out the obvious, black voters voting for Obama and women voters voting for Hillary. It is what it is, I don't see anything wrong with Hillary rallying her base.
     

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