I brought this up in another thread. I wouldn't want to trade him really, but if the right offer came along, how can you not look at it? Example: J'Oneal really wants to come to houston 1st and Sa 2nd. He tells the Pacers that he'll do a sign and trade to Houston or leave for SA outright. You're Houston and Donnie walsh calls you and says that you can have J'Oneal in a sign and trade 12mill per for Francis and either Rice,Tayolr or Cato. If you're cd and as much as you like Francis, would you do it? I bet if that was part of it , most anyone would and here's why. J'Oneal is 24yrs old and is getting better every yr. He and Ming couldwork well together and allow the Rockets to move Mobley back to the pg duty. What also happen is the Rockets would get a chance to get rid of a bad contract like Taylor. Given that situation, would it still seem unreasonable to think about trading Francis? With Ming and O'Neal working the high-low game like Dave and Duncan in 97-99 wouldn't that be enough to be serious threats. On top of that, Griffin could be traded or packaged with Cato to get something else good to complete the team. Mobley,Posey(resigned),Nachbar or Morris,J'Oneal and Ming would be a very,very good starting 5. That 5 would be better than Francis,Mobley,Posey,Griffin,Ming. All options have to be explored when trying to win the ring.
Nothing like a good bit of over-exaggeration. Well at least we know where you got the Stupid part of your 'moniker'.
I have been unimpressed with Francis since day one. He has improved his shot but is hardly a pure shooter. He is clearly a great athlete, incredible leaper, BUT his "streetball" tendancies are his undoing. Too often tries to force the action, has a poor since of timing, appears to have limited court vision, over-dribbles, not a great passer (a real problem for a PG), seems to be going for the highlight reel instead of making the easier high percentage play, does "terrible" interviews. Ming is the future of the team, and Francis, despite his public pronouncements to the contrary, will never let that happen. Francis wants and needs to be the focus of attention. That is a problem. IMO, Mobley is a better shooter (even though his shot selection is as bad as Francis'), has great moves, quick, great leaper and a better passer (when he passes). IMO, Mobley is more teachable. Francis has always struck me as a spoiled whiner. Based on the fan comments posted on this board, I am not alone in that opinion i.e. Francis will never be a great PR asset. In your heart, you know I'm right.
I second that notion. Francis is a spoiled whiner who demands to be the center of attention. I'd rather keep Mobley and trade Francis any day.
Steve is not untradeable. He is not one of the top players in the game yet. He's somewhere just outside that realm. He also up to this point hasn't shown me he's anywhere's near entering that realm. He reminds me a lot of Stephon Marbury earlier in his career and that's a bad thing. If someone offers you a top player for Steve, you should seriously consider it.
You seem to be another hater who ignores FACTS to make your point. Can you name a game when Steve's lack of Defense contributed directly to a loss.
Versus the Blazers where he was getting beat consistantly, Cat rotated to help and Derek Anderson nailed about 7 threes in a row. The Suns on January 15th, Marbury goes of for 30 plus. The Kings on March 23, where the Kings PGs combined for 38 points. Cat holds Doug Christy and Jim Jackson to 9. March 4th against the Pistons, Chauncy Billups outscores Francis by 10 points. March 31st against the Nets, Jason Kidd scores 30 on over 50% shooting. Francis manages 22 shooting 10 percentage points lower. February 11th versus the Jazz, John Stockton abuses Francis and gets his team to shoot 52% from the field with double digit assists. December 14th vs Clippers. Andre Miller scores 27 on 10-15 shooting. January 21st, Steve Nash scores 20 on almost 60% shooting. I would say Francis's defense, or lack thereof, contributed to all of those losses.
I think this should be posted again. <B>I think people dislike Francis because he doesn't make his teammates better.</B> That is what a true star does. As a point guard his job should be to get other players involved, not necessarily dribble penetration and shoot. <B>Watch the finals:</B> Both Duncan and Kidd, who are legit super stars that play very different positions, have one thing in common, they both pass the ball and create easy opportunities for their teammates. <B>Steve Statistics aren't that great.</B> Steve averaged 6 assist per game. This is not great considering the guy was runner up for most turnovers per game. That my friend isn't great statistics for a point guard let alone a super star. So, I don't believe statistics are in his favor. <B>Reason people say Steve has Low IQ</B> besides watching the many bone headed plays that Steve/ Mobley were infamous for on sportscenter, Steve lacks court vision, pass abilities, and over all good decision making which are what I consider essential if you want to be a point guard, let alone a super star point guard. Yeah, Steve gets his so-called statistics, which I don't believe is that good of an argument, but that isn't enough if you want to take this team to the playoffs let alone the NBA championship title. Originally posted by x_trepidation_x
You know anyone else doing 20-6-6. No.. wait!!! Kevin Garnett, oh ya!!! I forgot, since hes a pf he should be getting above 6 rebounds... right.
