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Why do People Want to keep Private Insurance over Govt

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Jun 22, 2009.

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  1. glynch

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    Silly rabbit. We have crummy private hospitals in the barrior or ghettoes. I don't want to go there. Now I guess I have proven that private medicine sucks.

    So much of logic I guess.
     
  2. glynch

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    Then you are over at Ben Taub and bankrupt. The American way that guys like FMullegan defend because they eat organic or something and have been spoon fed an ideology that blinds them.
     
  3. Rockets2K

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    for one person Im sure....call me when I can cover my whole family for that much...


    on second thought....dont...cause I aint got an extra 400 dollars to pay it anyway.

    you rich guys crack me up......you dont have a flaming clue about what its like to not have access to employer provided insurance and to not have the kind of money it would take to buy it on your own.



    lol...yeah right....Im gonna travel 50 miles to go to Ben Taub....

    (cue Cheetah's unlikely sign)
     
  4. fmullegun

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    225 for me, the 400 is for family. I am sorry that you do not find it to your advantage to be employed where you get coverage. My guess is you make more money because of this choice. Correct?

    Medical care still costs much less than housing.
     
  5. fmullegun

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    Let them first work to fix medicare. Obama has proposed many items that would help medicare and other issues.
     
  6. Rockets2K

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    I realize this is hard for you to understand, but not everyone works in industries that pay 6 figures....us blue collar guys outnumber guys like you by a LARGE margin.

    Im wasting my time with you CaseyH.....just suffice to say that an entire segment of the population has to deal with issues you cant or wont comprehend and lets just leave it at that.
     
  7. fmullegun

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    LOL at you choosing to take a job without health plan so you can make more cash then asking me to pay for it.
     
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    As someone who's dealt with chronic pain for years, has had back surgery that didn't work, with titanium screws holding part of my spine together (a reason I'm not always in the best humor here) I have some advice, if you are interested. Don't put up with inadequate pain meds. It took me a while to realize it, but many doctors live in the last century when it comes to pain management. They either don't know, don't care, or are concerned about the government looking into how often they proscribe pain medication. The answer? Tell you doctor, flatly, that your pain medication is not working. Tell them what you want. That you need adequate pain meds, and if he/she refuses to proscribe meds that keep you as comfortable as medical science will allow, considering your condition, that you can and will use another doctor (that's the end game, if your doctor refuses to be a human being).

    From what I have read about what you've gone through, you should need some serious stuff. If you are given the line about "We don't want you to become addicted to these powerful pain medications, do we?" tell the fool that you have just had major invasive surgery and that it is inhuman to cause you to suffer when there are several excellent meds that will help a great deal. Vicodin (several different strengths), Norco (more powerful Vicodin, basically), Percocet, Oxycondin, Demerol, in order of how strong they are (at least in my opinion), are all good pain meds.

    Tell them what you want. And tell them you have no history of addiction and refuse to suffer due to lack of care. Good luck.
     
  9. fmullegun

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    holy crap!
     
  10. LScolaDominates

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    Maybe not, but private people are.
     
  11. Major

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    Emergency services are a whole lot more costly per person. And health care companies don't pay for millions of people's premiums.

    You continue to avoid the issue. Are you the 1 person in America who doesn't believe there's a health care problem? If not, what's the solution?
     
  12. Major

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    Except current trends are already that fewer and fewer employers provide health insurance because it's getting too costly for them.
     
  13. Major

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    Actually, since employer-based health insurance is tax-deductible for the company, the US taxpayer is subsidizing your insurance as opposed to someone who gets it on their own.
     
  14. fmullegun

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    I don't have a problem with his choice to make money however he wishes. Just when he makes that choice don't complain.
     
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    fmullegun's debate strategy: avoid the issue and blame the victim
     
  16. fmullegun

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    The victim who chooses to grow his hair long and live the dream of being his own boss?

    Man I am such a bad person who has it so easy being a peon working for the man everyday.
     
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    ...and blindly supporting the ideology that keeps him a peon!
     
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    True that.

    And that.
     
  19. Major

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    Yet you're are complaining about gov't helping pay for other people's healthcare while benefiting directly from the subsidies the gov't provides your employer to provide you with healthcare.
     
  20. Refman

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    1. I have no issues with my insurance company...yet.

    2. I seriously doubt the government can do better. I believe that the government can cover everybody with really crappy care.

    3. Of course I want to help the uninsured. I think that real reform can be an answer rather than scrapping the entire system. I do not see how society is better off by spending wildly to cover the uninsured when the quality of health care of those with insurance will decline.

    4. Our current system has many flaws. People that deliver the health care can provide some answers how to make health care better. Right now, too much is decided by MBAs and not enough by doctors.

    5. I really do not want to lose my choice of doctor.

    6. What is being considered right now is WAY too expensive.
     
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