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Why do people in the Middle East hate us?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by greenhippos, Sep 13, 2011.

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Why do they hate us?

Poll closed Sep 27, 2011.
  1. Because we're free

    17.4%
  2. Because we've spent decades killing their people

    82.6%
  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Not at all, the point is that there is no "One reason", and that the control over what these people grow up learning is far more important than any other reason.

    Controlling information is the key to the mass publics thinking....

    Look at Fox news and the TeaParty folks for proof....if you just banned Fox and forced them to watch CNN, the TeaParty would fall apart.

    ;)

    DD
     
  2. conquistador#11

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    Because we have script clubs!

    Seriously,
    Picture them coming over here and telling you who to vote for and then making a profit from every dunkin donuts establishment. People don't like it when you go into their countries and tell them how to run things. Look at republicans getting their underwear bunched up when the presidente of Mexico gave his opinion on how the U.S should handle illegal immigration. Vietnamese comrades do not like it when chinese comrades make suggestions.

    I dislike flags and wish we could all get along, so much to learn from each other. Maybe in another lifetime.
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    That's fine and all, but the "reason" you gave is still, at a minimum, incomplete.
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    so what are ron paul's views on energy and oil independence. not disagreeing with paul. just wondering if he thinks we should try to decline or use of middle eastern oil
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Too small. And yes, Islamists hate The Netherlands and the Scandinavian countries.
     
  6. AMS

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    The reasoning behind the hatred towards the Dutch is not at all for the reasons that you are trying to imply...
     
  7. greenhippos

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    If your dumbass was watching the debate last night, you'd understand the poll a little better instead of coming on here and looking extremely uneducated.
     
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  8. greenhippos

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    You're being way too kind with your choice of words my friend.
     
  9. HorryForThree

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    Like most of the posters have already said, there are certainly a multitude of reasons that motivate anti-american sentiment in the middle east and around much of the world.

    A constant when attempting to understand anti-americanism is that foreign policy decisions are almost always controversial. There are rarely decisions made that get universally approved, and the more we choose to intervene internationally, the more likely we are to incite resentment.

    To highlight one such instance of this dynamic, today's Dawn (a large syndicated newspaper in Pakistan) carries a report of a Taliban contingent attacking a school bus, killing 4 children. It was, by all accounts, a callous and disgusting attack, and one can only hope the perpetrators get brought to justice.

    On the other hand, yesterday's Daily Times (another syndicated paper in Pakistan) ran a story about our government supporting the opening of a Taliban political office in Qatar. The article reports that the move is being done in hopes that it will begin formal peace talks with the Taliban.

    Now, no one expects us to remain in Afghanistan forever, but what does it say about Afghanistan that after ten years we are starting peace talks with the very entity we went to war to displace?

    It is too easy to blame dictators, environments, hatred of freedom/liberty, etc. when evaluating global perceptions of us, particularly when we have a track record in that region that is, quite frequently, very difficult to defend. Just my 2 cents.
     
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  10. ChrisBosh

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    I believe a lot of the Middle East public asks the same question but flipped around....
     
  11. Nook

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    #1 Israel
    #2 We are occupying Middle Eastern countries.
    #3 Religious differences
    #4 Our cultures has bombarded their culture.

    Real question is why don't they hate us more.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Why would I want to watch crap TV like that, let them argue and when the dust settles then we will see.

    At least from my Dumbass viewpoint.

    :)

    DD
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Oh, and the poll is stupid and generalizes everyone in the Middle East, must be some dumbass who made it.

    ROFLMAO !

    DD
     
  14. percicles

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    Because we can freely masturbate.
     
  15. Phillyrocket

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    #1 Israel
    #2 Israel
    #3 Israel

    How long has this been biting us in the @ss?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    Of course this and and pulling out of the Bretton Woods Accord is what caused the economic crisis that Carter was later blamed for similar to our current situation....
     
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    just the statement "Muslim World" is flawed. People act as if its unified, as there is one singular belief. Think how many different sects and beliefs there are in other religions. Think about the differences between jews, orthodox jews, hasidic jews, etc.

    Not only are muslims not unified in terms of beliefs as there are two major seperations and many more within each seperation which shape different beliefs more or less, then you have the regional issues. This is often mistakingly misunderstood with religious values when those regional/cultural views get portrayed as "islamic". This often happens in arabia.

    The "Muslim world" streches from a solid population here in the states, Europe, Central Asia, South Asia, East asia, and of course the middle east(which is not the place where most muslims are, but gets the most attention for apparent reasons unfortunately). And within those you will find different views and reasons. It is safe to say, as an American muslim, I don't agree with all of our foreign policies, etc. Yet I am still a proud American and love the country. I have family in south Asia, they all dream of moving here and life over here and appreciate how great our freedoms are even if they don't see eye to eye with all of our foreign policies. Depending on the region, you might have a different view.

    If you go strictly by religion, you will see the emphasis in the quran with Virgin Mary, Jesus, that tries to tie the abrahamic faiths. It strictly forbids any sort of force conversion, and there are passages about different paths to god and refers to the other major monotheistic religions(judaism and christianity) as righteous brothers. There are parts that are within context of the war at that current time just like you can find passages in the bible and the torah that might be violent in nature, yet they are specifically referring to a particular context and you can see the general message laid out throughout all 3 religious readings about peace and a personal spiritual and righteous path or way of living


    I think all these terrorist even have mention,although with a religious voice, that they feel attacked or their lands are occupied and they won't sit through with it. They try to dignifiy their heinous crimes with religion which is a shame, they not only ust target americans or westerners, but if you do research, they kill more muslims and terrorize locals in their homelands more than anything. They are simply exclusivist absolutist who try to manipulate religious voice to justify their social and political agenda.


    Ironically enough, it is the people who try to paint muslims in one broad stroke, say they can't coexist with Americans such as Pamela Gellar(the crazy lady from the blogs) who would more so be able to sit down with them and even agree on viewpoitns since both are extremist exclusivist viewpoints that don't feel that people can live together. They hear the other speak, dignify eachother and think that person is right in between them, I think that is interesting since they both have negative perspectives of eachother, yet are so similar.

    If you think its just some religious battle that has gone before time and they will never get along with us. just goto Regan's presidency.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NE-72ZXux...FY/pz3DUwebO0o/s1600/reaganandmujahideen1.jpg

    Here you will find that they worked together to defeat and fight off russia. These guys were in the white house, chumming it up with regan, and the President said they had the "character of the founding fathers". They apparently had no issue with America the west there and had a pleasant stay, this was in the past few decades, so clearly its not some innate religious obligation, but more of a matter of foreign policy and politics
     
  18. Hydhypedplaya

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    And how did most those rulers get to that position? How did they continuously keep that position? :rolleyes: Foreign meddling was the direct cause of most of the ME's problems since the beginning of the 1900's. That has not changed to this day.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Horse**** !

    It is a tribal region, the fact that all the different sects over there have trouble with each other has led to most of the problems.

    That, and the fact that information is controlled in a good number of countries to keep the masses ignorant of life outside their little areas, also contributes mightily.

    And I don't believe for one second the average Middle Eastern person hates the USA, or individuals etc, they might have a different view on how goverment should work, but people are people, so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully?

    DD
     
  20. ChrisBosh

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    Horse****!! It might apply to Iraq and Pakistan to some extent, but generally differences in sect are not the primary reasons for the problems there. Generally one sect dominates the population, do some research.
     

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