No, it's not. I'm hoping she doesn't make it back to this thread to see the insult. I'm hoping the admins will do the right thing here so we can avoid fruitless name-calling.
you have every right to be peeved but is it worth it? he's all about trying to get under people's skin.
Sure. Why the hell not? Breeding with your cousins is stupid from a scientific perspective because it creates a much higher incidence of hereditary diseases. Eating beef from a scientific perspective is stupid because it leads to certain consequences like millions of people starving from grain being inefficiently used. On an individual basis, I'm not saying everyone should stop eating beef but systematically speaking it's simply stupid that beef prices are being kept down by twisted subsidies (if you ever want a case study in taxpayers money being wasted look no further then American farm policy and "mega-farm" subsidies) and a cultural practice/preference for beef that is being propagated throughout the world. Personally though, live and let live. I personally don't give that much of a s*** about this. But that's the point. We all do things that wouldn't make sense scientifically. To jump viscerally into it and judge other people and their cultural mores over this is just stupid when one looks in the mirror.
When I was in medical school, our Genetics professor went over this for about 5 minutes during a 45 minute lecture. Basically he said that marrying cousins and so forth was encouraged in many parts of the world because it kept the wealth in the family. The only downside is you are prone to recessive genetic diseases which are fairly uncommon otherwise.
Seems like Ronny dug himself a hole, time for a new moniker buddy...........your reputation is like the current state of Pakistan, "goo" as you claim :grin:
Ronny that was wrong, I think you owe some people here an apology man... That stuff is not cool, this is not the type of site that should allow comments like that.
Ho ho ho Chris Bosh, the peanut gallery has been following me for some time now. I've performed a pyscho-analysis on a few of them, such as ima_drummer, a poster who has never been outside of Texas and constantly brings others down to his level in an attempt to compensate for this. Anyone who fluctuates from the mean is "trolling", because as Conan O Brien and Arrested Development's cancellation have proved (these are just a couple of popular examples), this country doesn't like to think for itself. They adhere closely to their party policies and the status quo out of fear they won't be taken seriously if they don't. No one wants to be thought of as a fool, do they? At times, I do feel like the kid with the microscope staring down on an ant hill. It's a personality type - I like to see if people can think outside of their comfort zone. It's the most raw form of intelligence one can achieve, and you won't realize it's potential if you're too afraid to step outside of that bubble. Like a woman, I enjoy testing men and seeing where their boundaries lie. For example, Deckard proved himself to be a little quick to jump the gun, oversensitive and hot headed when he barreled in here and made his post based off an assumption. I have nothing against him personally, but it is what it is. Calling Mrs. Valdez "Becky" is like calling me Tom, it's merely an ice breaker, nothing uncalled for. I was forthright and honest with Valdez, a trait a lot of men could use when communicating with women. Moderators have neg repped me on more than one occasion based on misinterpretations of my posts. Let's not get petty in an attempt to impose our own personal interpretations of points that aren't written in textbooks. It also strikes me as ironic that one of the posters in this thread has posted pictures of a random Persian girl from Houston on a forum without her consent, then decides he knows what's right and wrong based on mob sentiment. Hypocrisy works in funny ways when you can hide behind the mob to take accountability for your own shortcomings. Inspire yourselves America, complacency will come back to haunt you.
This is completely irrelevant. I've seen pregnant women smoking cigarettes. Whether it's a pack a month or a pack a day, her child can still come out perfectly healthy. But scientifically, the odds of the child being born with a defect is higher than if she didn't smoke any cigarettes. And if she lives in a house (aka, a community) with other smokers while she's pregnant, and visits bars on a weekly basis, seeing no issue with constantly inhaling second hand smoke - are you going to judge this women or just... let her live? That's all I'm trying to point out. Game. Set. Match.
*a And if these women had a high incidence of producing children with birth defects, as a link posted in this thread demonstrates as a fact, are you still going to ... let them live? 33% of babies with defects are from an ethnic minority of 3%. How can you turn your shoulder to this? Are you inhumane? Have you no shame? And if this practice was the norm in a country that is a self-professed failed state, in a country that has a tumultuous history regarding the harboring of terrorists, the training of terrorists, and so on, are you just going... to live and let live? Let's take one step forward and make these parallels. Life is too important to look past certain things so we can continue living in a politically correct bubble of fairies and rainbows. Guys, this is real.
I see. So you must judge any person who lives in any way, other than in the safest manner. I hope I never run to you the next time I get myself a hamburger, or decide to jaywalk.
<br> Bolded statement: Provide a link. It would also be interesting to see which genetic diseases those are. To answer your original question: Because Pakistani people are effing stubborn and conservative as heck. I'd like to point out thought that it's the Indian Subcontinent in general. They pretty much all do it. Although I would say it's becoming less prevalent in India though. However, because of their population size, it still happens at a decent rate. <br> Again, how do people not condemn this as being a blatantly racist comment?? While I do agree that it is an ignorant choice, it is not about being educated or not. I don't know how you just grouped an entire nation as being "uneducated". I'm pretty sure it's more about tradition(an idiotic one) than anything else.
<br> Sorry for the double post. Thought I would correct the glaring grammar mistakes so Ronny doesn't damage my self esteem by calling me prole
Wow. I have to agree with others, you have a creepy eugenicist vibe. I will for the record let people live their lives because I know that I don't have all the keys and that I am not arrogant enough to assume that I know or the state knows what is best for them. It is better to live and to let live then to let any person or institution have the power to enforce social and cultural mores with scientific data and objectives. If that's inhumane, then so be it.
Maybe there's no discussion here at all. So you're saying this practice is going on, quite often in Pakistan. I'm not sure but you may somehow be implying that this is correlated to their state of affairs? Also, your solution is for them to just stop. Nevermind that this practice is declining in popularity everyday, everywhere, all the time. So they are stopping. In all honesty, I don't think anyone will disagree with you in principle. The argument being made here by some though is that it's really none of our business. Our business is to teach genetics in calssrooms and hope that it carries over. I'm certain that parents who smoke are more likely to have asthmatic children. I'm sure that obese couples (genetics being the reason) have a higher chance of having unhealthy children. Hell, some adopted children may discover later that they didn't want to be adopted by their specific parents. We can't control that stuff. What we can control is that there's apparently a test you can undergo to determine whether marrying the specific cousin is likely to cause complications. This is why the practice is essentially dissapearing from the middle east, for example. The tests weren't going very well, so people started looking outside that scope. Simple, easy, gone. Any improvement, IMO, is more likely to come with information/education rather than some kind of rule barring the practice.
