Ah, I see spelling it out for you piece by piece didn't help you keep up. Oh well at least I tried, better luck next time guy.
You're, unsurpisingly, missing the point... Just curious, how many of Russell Wilson's INTs "have come on tipped passes or routes where the intended receiver ran the wrong route"? (ie do you honestly think Ryan Fitzpatrick, a perputual turnover machine his entire career, is just the goshdarn unluckiest QB in the NFL?) (And, btw, while flaccidly attempting to quantify "luck," where does one of Fitz's TDs coming on the back of a player blowing out an Achillies and fumbling one of those "unlucky" INTs rank? That's the inherent problem with trying to dig in and defend your narrative at all costs. I don't disagree - some of his INTs this year haven't entirely been his fault. But at the end of the day, I think "luck" works itself out and you are what you are; in Fitzpatrick's case: a guy who always throws a lot of interceptions.)
Nope, there really isn't. I posted that Fitz was being used in the RW role only he's not performing as well and isn't anywhere near as good a running back as RW is and it seems that it takes a dozen posts for some people to comprehend that. I'm hoping they are just trying to create and argument for the sake of there being an argument.
JJo is playing the Richard Sherman role, just not as well. This concludes today's installment of vacuous statements.
Look the numbers I posted speak for themselves for those who know how to read them. I accept that you are not one of those people, now let's move on.
Dude, I have nothing against you, but Hey Now is running circles around you. You're the only one who doesn't realize it. You're not helping yourself when you say a QB shouldn't be blamed for doinking passes off of linemen's helmets either. I know, I know. I need to learn how to watch film, right?
He's really not. He doesn't seem to understand that QB ratings, yards per attempt stats, and completion percentages aren't really affected by how many games you've played. He further fails to understand that even if Wilson has his 4th career 300 yard regular season game next week, he'd still be pretty much tied with Fitz for passing yards. His failure continues when it comes to him not realizing that "comparable" isn't the same thing as "exactly the same". He finishes up his failure with not realizing that in the initial post I pointed out the interceptions and RW's ability as a running back. Honestly the whole ordeal has been sad but I've just accepted his shortcomings and am trying to move on.
Yeah, Bobby... I know you're trying to retroactively gain the higher ground here ("what? I TOTALLY said Wilson was better...") - but that's *not* what you posted. At no point do you explicitly state Fitzpatrick is "not performing as well." In fact, by conveniently leaving out any context, you're very plainly extending one of your favorite narratives, which is that Russell Wilson is nothing but a game manager the inferior fan overrates who isn't appreciably better than Fitzpatrick. Trust us... the subtext was lost on no one. We're all hip to your act. You even concede this in your next paragraph. ie, thus far, there really isn't *any* separation... Something that doesn't happen to any other QB in the NFL... And, oh btw, let's just skip past those INTs because, guys... they TOTALLY have a comparable number of pass attempts, and isn't that what really matters? We're back to even, because, you know, luck... Again, "the major thing" that separates them... is running. Otherwise.... eh, throw a dart....... Is that an inaccurate conclusion, Bobby?
Ah, that makes sense, you weren't reading the actual words I was typing choosing instead to have a fun monologue in your head about what you wish I had said. I said that they are used in the same role. They are. I said that RW is doing so better. He is. I pointed out that their passing stats are largely comparable with the notable exception being interceptions. They are. I went further and pointed out that a lot of Fitz' interceptions are on tipped balls and how one of them was on a play where the intended receiver ran the wrong route. That's true. I pointed out that RW was a much better running back than Fitz. He is. Tell me again which point you have a problem with or are you just unhappy about potential conclusions that may or may not be drawn as a result of these points?
Originally Posted by Bobby: and obviously the major thing that separates them is that RW is a much better RB than Fitz is. False. RW is also a much better passer.
OOOOKKKKKayyyy, I'm scratching my head at how RW & RF can even be part of the same discussion as one of them (RW) has a Super Bowl ring while the other (RF) is the ultimate meatball. I suppose that in a purely abstract sense considering the total passing yards stat, then yeah, there's a point to be made...somewhere. But I would also point out that RF has been playing longer than RW and the fact that he's this close to RF in his third year in the league actually makes RF look that much worse which in and of itself is quite an achievement. Oh and the Texans currently suck because they are in the process of transitioning from Kubiak football to BoB football.
Says the guy comparing counting statistics and conveniently ignoring the discrepancy in games played... And btw, I addressed the rate stats - RW is underachieving, and by wildly overachieving, RF's is indeed close. My guess remains that they won't be close by seasons' end. And if the Seahawks are shut out, RW would still have more total TDs and, barring the worst performance in modern NFL history, significantly fewer TOs. But, please - let's discuss pass attempts... So, Bobby - are eight games and nine games "comparable" or "exactly the same" cuz I are confusinged...... When you stare deep into your mirror, are the monologues internal or do you actually say them aloud? Shirtless? Probably shirtless. Well, regardless – congrats on declaring yourself the internet winner. Yea, you!
Seriously, it's like everything I post has to be broken down Barney style for you guys. The "major" difference between the two QB's is that one is a vastly superior running back, that doesn't mean that there aren't other things that separates them. How is that hard to understand? Statement: A Lexus costs a lot more than a can of beans Response: NOT TRUE A LEXUS COSTS MORE THAN A FORD!!!!! That's pretty much how things have been going in this conversation.
And this is how things spiral out of control. You obviously missed the original point and that was that Fitz is being used in the same role RW is being used in Seattle. They aren't being compared as QB's. No one is arguing which QB they'd rather have or anything like that.
