Why do I keep hearing this team isn't good enough with Yao?

*Bill Walton? Really? Similar situation, but hardly similar treatment.

*Big Z? Really? Similar situation, similar treatment, but technology has come a long way since Big Z had his surgery which was like 10 years ago...

*Walton went down in 1987, dude... They do not have the technology in 87 as opposed to now...

*When it's all said and done. You can either love Yao or hate Yao. But I'll tell you this, DM and Les is not moving Yao anytime soon. Maybe they know something you Yao haters don't know... Let's see... What would that be?

*You can either accept it and support Yao (without being a YOF) because he's a Houston Rocket, or you can just move on and be a fan on another team. We are just beating a dead horse here. There are a trillion threads about Yao this and Yao that...

*He's a Rocket, support him for that... If Yao was such weak sauce, you'd think DM would got rid of him already being the statistical genius that Morey is. But no, he's keeping Yao. What does that tell you? Don't know about you, but that tells me a lot, actually. Tells me Yao is that good... "In Morey We Trust Right?"

 

That's exactly my point. I don't care what you say about Yao, whether he is a great center, good center, the best center in the universe, the best center in the history of mankind, the worse center in the history of human civilization or whatever. That's your opinion and you have your right to hold it. But when you came down to the level to label people who don't agree with you a YOF and then try to generalize what a few persons have said a few years ago to make a whole group of people look bad, you did not conduct your discussion in a respected manner. No offense, but I find it very funny that you requested the other posters to discuss in a respected manner while you are not doing it that way.

 

Yoa is the only good asian center we have ever had in the NBA!!! he has already made history, and is the tallest nba player today

 

Not to stoke the fire, but i would take lopez right now and going forward over yao. Why? Age,production,mobility,versitility. They wouldnt even have to give me a draft pick, just the player.

I say this and believe this because i look at windows. The better the player,the longer the window stays open. I think any window the rockets thought they had is gone, but i think they can get into that next window which is post dallas,lakers,nuggett,suns and get into the ok city,portland,utah window. That window will be in 3 yrs by my estimation,I say this because the teams in the first bracket have great players playing well. The rockets dont have such a player, but they have good players playing well.To me, i want my good players playing very well in a couple of year and with the possible lotto pick or via trade can get that great player. Thats why i would prefer lopez because you can get the same production without the playing any out the box gameplan to utilize him. This whole 25min per night thing is as silly as it sounds. No team has ever won a title when the supposed best player can only play 25 mins a night. So now the rockets are supposed to be the exception to the rule?

Back to the windows thing, if anyone know about windows its adelman. Look at the blazers from 87-92 and the kings from 2000-2003. They had championship quality teams, couldnt get it done, stars got old,he got fired. Trying to shoehorne around yao is like building around clyde in 94. Even then clyde was still a better player than yao and they added strickland, but the team had run its course. Getting yao back after a major surgery on his foot along with his age and size is asking for super failure unless a superstar emerges or comes via trade. The rockets will never win anything if yao is the best player. Mark that down, call me a hater, but thats just the truth.

 

Of course. Good young center without injury history vs. better but older center with a very significant injury history? Sure you take the healthy younger guy with longer production window.

But the problem is why a rebuilding team wants a 30-year old with the injury history that causes would cause you to prefer Lopez?

Fact is, the health issue with Yao means you are never gonna get even close to 100 cent on the dollar for him in a deal. So you might as well work from that reality.

I also don't think winning championship with Yao as the best player is necessarily the plan. They are just trying to win a championship, and would happily take a star better than Yao to do it(Chris Bosh? Dare I say Lebron James?).

As far as I can tell, Morey is not one to be stuck on some sort of "blueprint." In fact, he said that at the MIT conference-- there is no magical formula, no Big 2, Big 3, Big 4, Big 0, people just make that **** up. The plan is to watch for opportunities and take advantage of them (be it buying a 2nd round pick, signing Ariza when he got pissed at the Lakers, or trading for Kevin Martin). The team is being build to play with or without Yao Ming.

 

I think Denver, Dallas, and Utah(if healthy), have a shot too.

 

wow Yao haters at full throttle.
All i see is a bunch of arrogants who claim their opinion to be the truth.

 

This team is a border-line playoffs team at the moment. Will adding Yao alone make it a championship contender? I highly doubt it. Also, we should have learned our lessons about betting on Yao's health. With that said, keep in mind that we are going to get a lot more than just Yao Ming this summer with the trade assets that Morey has culumated.

 

We probably aren't on the same level as Cleveland or LA, but next year's team certainly isn't WORSE than the one from last year. If anything, we've dramatically improved with Martin, a serviceable second year Budinger, and not-Artest. And this isn't including the fact that Brooks has really come into his own.

 

"are" uneducated.

:grin:

DD

 

Ugh people really need to stop suggesting horrible trades.

I mean Brook Lopez!!!! Sure he has a nice O game but his defense is horrible.

Give me Bogut at least, somebody who can play a lick of D.

I rather the Rockets take a Risk for 1-2 years on trying to win it all. Right now GM is betting Yao won't get hurt anymore or at least not suffer major injury.

If we don't get an A player for Yao, it ain't worth it, since his contract comes up soon. Bosh is not an A player, putting up numbers does not = a winner.

 

**** you......English is not my first language.

 

Important safety tip, if you are going to call someone uneducated, at least try to look educated yourself.

Rule number 8 in the Internet Intelligence Charter....come on man, get with the program.

SHEESH !

DD

 

I wonder how you would do moving to another country at 11 years old, perfecting a second language isn't exactly easy. Look fat boy, I'm really glad you get to make up for your picked on youth by being all big time on an internet forum. Congrats.

 

Interesting...especially since one of your most prevalent arguments is "I'm older than you!!!!!!"

 

I guess that is true, since you clearly just moved to the US last year.

But at least I was here to help educate you, and now you know that there is an internet intelligence charter.

You should probably have to pass a wonderlic test to post on the internet....it is serious business.

DD

 

Well, glad you can judge a person's intelligence based on grammar, on an internet forum. We all know how important it is to get everything right here. But I'm right on track as of now, UC Berkeley bound. But thank you, we are all fortunate to have a middle aged man like yourself around to inform us. Just enjoy the downhill life you have left.....while mine is just starting.
You give me something to aspire to. Don't hurt yourself big boy...au revoir.

 

JSonic, you may be right about Morey and Les, only time will tell...

But I will tell you this about History..

The Greatest Book ever written was "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu... Now as you probably know this book was written in the period of (476–221 BC).

Now this book is regarded as the bible for all Military Tachnicians and Corp Level Leaders. The funny thing is there were no modern weapons or technology but there is a lot of HISTORY and LESSONS to be learned.

 

Hey, you were the one who called someone uneducated, and made yourself look silly by your post.

But, no harm Berkley is great, I hire a lot of people from there.

Good luck, and polish up those sandals tough guy, got to get edumacated.

Now, back on topic.

With Yao, the Rockets immediatly improve to top 5 defensively, and are more efficient offensively.

Just adding Yao to this team makes them a top contender.


DD