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Why did the Tmac era fail?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Jan 18, 2010.

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Why?

  1. Tmac

    159 vote(s)
    35.6%
  2. Yao

    19 vote(s)
    4.3%
  3. the supporting cast wasn't good enough

    230 vote(s)
    51.5%
  4. the coaches

    5 vote(s)
    1.1%
  5. it was not a failure, it was a successful era in Rockets history

    34 vote(s)
    7.6%
  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    you mention that Tmac's playoff performance was unreal, so naturally as a Rocket fan I remember that Tmac's playoff performance wasn't really that great compared to other greats.

    There is a time where Tmac is better than Kobe, that time is never.

    Stay thirsty my friend.
     
  2. VBG

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    So 12-25 shooting, 29 points, 13 assists, 3 blocks, 5 rebounds and only 2 turnovers (for his usage is extremely low) is not a superstar performance?

    While Yao's 9-20 (he's a big man who should shoot over 50% in a game especially an important one), 6 rebounds, 4 turnovers and 1 block is an amazing performance?
     
  3. RocketMania1991

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    Going back to that game 7 against Utah if you had to choose who underperformed who would it be between Mcgrady and Yao.

    I'd have to say it was Yao.
    He got lit up by Boozer for 35 points, got outrebounded by Boozer, and the softest center in the NBA Okur.

    He flat out got owned on the defensive side of that game.
     
  4. BrooksBall

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    Nice stat line for McGrady. Average or below average line for Yao.

    Now, I repeat...

    The Jazz were in foul trouble with about 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter of Game 7 and we had a several point lead.

    The ball is going to start in the hands of your best perimeter player late in games, not your center.

    With the ball in his hands, McGrady settled for bad outside jump shots instead of going to the basket.

    Any other star wing in that situation would have taken advantage of the Jazz being in the penalty on his home court in a do or die situation. Wade, Kobe, Lebron, etc... would not have settled for perimeter shot after perimeter shot after perimeter shot. They would have definitely gotten to the line several times down the stretch.

    It shouldn't have and wouldn't have come down to one rebound if our "superstar" perimeter player played like a superstar perimeter player. We would have won that game going away.
     
  5. Slimjim19

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    Saying T-mac is not as good as Kobe isn't saying much. There are not many players who you can compare to Kobe.
     
  6. VBG

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    There is a time where Jordan is better than T-Mac, that time is never.

    Stay thirsty my friend.

    HEY, 2 CAN PLAY THIS GAME
     
  7. RocketMania1991

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    It's okay maybe someday he will see the light.
    I
     
  8. VBG

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    He's outplayed Kobe in the playoffs. Kobe's just had a better team. I don't know why people refuse to see that.

    Basketball is a team game, it's not a superstar wins everything alone game.

    Houston fans of all people with this season should know that.
     
  9. rox4lyf

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    you're looking at rebound numbers to make your point? unbelievable.
     
  10. tinman

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    then why do people compare him to Kobe then? Kobe doesn't fade in the 4th quarter, where's that stat?
     
  11. RocketMania1991

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    The only one comparing him to Kobe is you....
     
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    Happily, I'm not one of those "Adidas NBA2k10 playing people" you've attempted to lump me in with. I just respectfully responded to your thread.

    I don't care about the what ifs right now only the reality. This thread was supposedly about polling to see if people thought that the T-Mac era was a failure with a list of reasons. I'll admit that I would have liked to have had a healthy Yao and T-Mac to go along with this year's group. As much as I hate it, it's not gonna happen.

    But to hear people overemphasize getting out of the first round and then talk about we took the Lakers to 7 games is just as bad as the sarcastic formula reference that you brought up above.

    Go ask any upper echelon NBA player what matters to them after the arduous task of making it into the league? They are not saying "make it out of the first round" trust me unless they were a part of a team that hadn't been out of the first round for somewhere near a decade.

    I think that I know a little about Hakeem. I was here when he was at UH with Clyde and the Phi Slamma Jamma crew who should've beat at least NC State (I believe) had it not been that last second shot. And also when we drafted him and if not mistaken, he wasn't the focal point of the team yet. As well as during both championships and enjoyed celebrating every minute on Richmond, on the side of the freeway, the parade downtown, at the Astrodome and so forth. And have endured the Rockets team failures every year thereafter. :(
     
  13. tinman

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    This is the national anthem of the Tmac nation.

    "He's better than Kobe"
     
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    To hate on him. You should know obviously :cool:

    VBG, I agree Kobe has had a better supporting cast, and you can say that T-mac has played well in the playoffs. We were just too injury-riddled while Kobe had relatively healthy teammates.
     
  15. tinman

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    or really?

     
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    INJURY!
     
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    Man, I have to agree with you. Loosing Game 6 in Utah , I was having a wierd feeling by the way our superstars were playing. Then came Game 7, the crowd is going crazy and all i remember is we were up by alot in the first half and the jazz made a comeback. Fourth Quarter came by and we started settling for outside shots including TMAC. and none of it was going in. If he took it to the basket, he could of gotten to the line . ur right, If that was Kobe, Wade, Lebron or infact throw in Hated Nowitzki , they would of took it to the basket and gotten calls. Ahh What If?? Who knew that would be the last time Tmac and Yao made the playoffs together.
     
  18. RocketMania1991

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    That was in response to you trying to bring up the comparisons
     
  19. tinman

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    Durability is part of the game.
     
  20. RocketMania1991

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    Something both Mcgrady/Yao fail at.

    Glad to see we agree.
     

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