How do you define that? Is just points? I do remember the Portland series that Yao caused all of Portland's bigs to get in foul trouble. really ridiculous heights? was T-mac's performance as good as this? <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JmMCPw_djNo&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JmMCPw_djNo&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> can you measure performance with wins or does it have to be only individual offensive stats?
I should have put GM on there, but you know the Rockets were favored in the Utah series with home court. So that year you can't say we had a bad team, because we were favored to win.
It failed because he feels sorry for himself when things are going his way. He gives little effort and shows no interest. Thats not a leader, thats a loser.
Tinman as big of a Yao lover as you are, there surely has to be something he has done to make you frown upon.
I know you were just having some fun here. I was just thinking seriously about the question. I do think that McGrady came up small in crunch time in that Game 7 at home. I'll never forget it: We had a several point lead, the Jazz were in foul trouble midway through the quarter and we barely got to the line for several minutes. Our "superstar" perimeter player decided to take several outside heaves during that stretch. It was playoff frickin' basketball. You can't just settle for jumpers. You have to take it the hole and get to the line, especially in that situation.
hahaha, dude a couple years ago all of China hated me. nice try. I'm all about the team. Yao earned my respect by his hard work and his constant improvement. His performance against the Blazers with all their bigs was fantastic. Look up "Who is Dream?" thread. I'm just a regular Rockets fan, I felt the same way that every Rocket felt when Tmac dunked on Bradley and felt the same way when Tmac went to Stephen A Smith at the trade deadline.
supporting cast. 2006-07 playoffs in game 7 mcgrady had 29 points, 5 rebounds, 13 assist, and 3 blocks and yao had 29 points. rafer went 3-11 and our bench got outscored 17-10 that roster needed that 3rd scoring option and we didn't have a legitimate 3rd piece of the puzzle. utah had a big 3 of williams, boozer, and okur. we had a big 3 of mcgrady, yao, and.....rafer? we also had no offensive spark coming off the bench like we do with landry. mcgrady and yao are not supposed to account for 50% of the teams total points per game. it's no surprise that we got out of the first round because we had offensive fire power all around with brooks, wafer, artest, scola, landry, etc but with that jvg yao/mcgrady era we didn't have solid and reliable offensive firepower utside of yao/mcgrady
Excellent post. Yeah I'm having fun here, why would I post here if it wasn't so fun! Defining moments of when you knew that a certain Rocket wasn't championship material: 1. Steve Francis - dribbling away the shot clock against the Lakers 2. Tmac - vs Utah at HOME (Houston, Toyota Center, Fans wearing your jersey) 3. Yao Ming - ??? (to be determined)
Coming up small it's getting a bit ridiculous now.Yao Ming had SIX Rebounds during that game 7 for a center of his size that is embarrassing. He got straight man handled by the physicality of the Jazz. The rebounding down the stretch was our ultimate downfall, the constant offensive rebounds allowed the Jazz to nail down the win. And Mcgradys statline was unreal for that game. For godsake he had 1 rebound less than Yao.
Think tmacs era started to fail in Houston after this: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/oleKfixy-7A&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/oleKfixy-7A&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> and after this game <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JvvwGOLLBzw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JvvwGOLLBzw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Do you think when and after he gets traded, he'll talk to Stephen A Smith about the Rockets organization like this? <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pQKfqfN2k7U&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pQKfqfN2k7U&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
This is why you pay superstars the money, in the crunch time. I'll give you examples, Dwayne Wade vs the Mavs LeBron vs the Pistons Both of these dudes carried their teams. you don't pay a dude $25 million and expect the hero to be Rafer Alston
Who freaking cares. If you were a Rockets fan, you only cared about the SCOREBOARD and that your big time players were not big time. I saw that game, "Did Yao have more rebounds than Tmac?" was not what was going on in my mind. Did you know how many points Robert Horry scored in Game 1 Western Conference Finals vs the Spurs in 95?? he scored 3. that won the game. Nobody cared if Mario Elie had more points than Robert Horry.
I'll just simply state this. I am neither a Yao or Tracy only fan, but the amount of hate Mcgrady receives is uncalled for. And in my honest opinion if I had to choose I would say Mcgrady has a better chance of winning a ring than Yao by looking at the current circumstances.
OMG YOU POSTED A VIDEO OF ONE PLAY. OH OH OH I CAN DO THAT TOO. <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/V7SO2KMIhTw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/V7SO2KMIhTw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> You want to compare Hakeem and T-Mac instead of Yao and T-Mac so you look smart then go ahead? I can't stop you. Can you stop measuring T-Mac by how crap his teammates were? Except for 1 year, Yao's usage has been far below T-Mac's. T-Mac has played his ass off. Can I pick Kobe as a comparision as he's usually regarded to be a "winner" and a "champion"? T-Mac has outplayed Kobe in pretty much every statistic in the playoffs. You can call it as bull**** but its facts. In fact T-Mac's cumulative playoff defensive rating is higher than Kobe's. And Kobe is a regular on the NBA defensive teams. So while T-Mac might not have won a playoff just stop hating on him for stuff he didn't screw up. It's not his fault that his team was terrible. It his fault that he's asked for trades, and has whined in the regular season. But don't question the fact that he's used his skills in the playoffs.
The Jazz were in foul trouble with about 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter of Game 7 and we had a several point lead. The ball is going to start in the hands of your best perimeter player late in games, not your center. With the ball in his hands, McGrady settled for bad outside jump shots instead of going to the basket. Any other star wing in that situation would have taken advantage of the Jazz being in the penalty on his home court in a do or die situation. Wade, Kobe, Lebron, etc... would not have settled for perimeter shot after perimeter shot after perimeter shot. They would have definitely gotten to the line several times down the stretch. It shouldn't have and wouldn't have come down to one rebound if our "superstar" perimeter player played like a superstar perimeter player. We would have won that game going away.
Sure he can, if he's not the #1 option on the team he get's traded to and if he gets traded to a contender. Tmac can be Mitch Richmond on the Lakers.
Absolutely not. You have your opinion. Everyone else has theirs. Your opinion supports the fact that T-mac is the one who scores all the points, gets all the rebounds, and dishes out all the assists, ultimately placing the blame on him. Last time I checked, there are 5 guys on the floor at one time. Show me a game where T-mac did everything.
