So when the Era did well its Yao's era and when it failed its Tmac's era? Tmac and Yao both are in it together. If the era was a failure, both are to be at fault equally. Its funny how whenever the Rockets came up short, the blame is on Tmac and when the season was a success, Yao gets the credit.
Do you think there will be a game 7 had LBJ not played huge in game 5? I think you missed Tinman's point in that post.
So you basically made this thread to blame Tmac for the Rockets failures and you posted this video which clearly showed that Yao is the main one that lost the game for us... It was Yao who couldn't get the rebound. Okur was left wide open the whole entire time in the last minute. Boozer had gotten a few BIG IMPORTANT rebounds over Yao. So Yao was the one that couldn't grab a rebound for us, Boozer torched him up bad, and Okur was just left standing wide open at the three point line when the game is on the line? Tmac was a good player for us but he just never had a supporting cast that can take some weight off of him. Everyone is saying that he wasn't good enough when he was more than good but no one else showed up. Everyone is saying that he isn't a franchise player so he sucks. Well lets be honest here, there is only one Dwade, one Lebron, one Kobe and 30 teams in the league. Tmac was actually the best we can put our hands on. Besides from Tmac, Steve Francis was considered our franchise player... Tmac was good enough to be our franchise player. He had heart. But after a few playoffs failures, he just gave up. Tmac was the one that got us to game 7. If it was all on Yao leading this team, this team wouldn't even make the playoffs. Without Tmac, we would have gotten swept by the Jazz. Its crazy how much everyone knows how vulnerable Yao is against Utah and we all know that we basically lost that game against the Jazz is because Yao just couldn't get the rebound or defend Boozer. But the funny thing about that is everyone would say that well its not Yao's fault he can't defend Boozer or grab that big rebound for us. Its Tmac's fault for not scoring enough. No matter how bad Yao performs, no matter how many games he caused for the Rockets to lose, everyone find an excuse for him and much rather stated that Tmac didn't score enough or Tmac don't have any heart or not good enough. If anything, Tmac's era was a failure simply because.. : Our supporting case was terrible. : Injuries : Yao's weaknesses If the Rockets was to repeat that last minute against the Jazz in game 7 and we would have switched out Yao or Pau Gasol, I think the outcome would be very different. All of Yao's weaknesses or mistakes are redirected to Tmac.
Me in 2004 on the TMac Trade: "Just for the record, this is a very bad idea! He is 25 years old with a bad back, and will do us no good if he is not on the court." With that said, I will be sad to see him go just as I was sad to see SF3 go the first time.
The OP should have included an option in the poll to place the blame on the Rockets' Training staff. With the exception of the Dallas series mad, we never entered a playoff series or completed a season for that matter with both Yao and TMac healthy at the same time. Niether of them were good enough alone to take us over the top, but together it would have been fun to see. Especially with the supporting casts of the past two years.
Yes he is. Yao didn't win that series either. Our roleplayers last year won it. I'm not sure if you remember not being able to finish because of a little foot injury that's put him down for the rest of this year, and quite likely going to drag him down for the rest of his career? Saying Yao got us into the second round is like saying Tracy did, because as I remember it, they were both riding the bench when the series ended.
Dude seriously, get your facts straight before you post. [Edit:] http://www.clutchfans.net/game.cfm?gameID=3115
1. T-Mac not as good as the management hoped him to be, he is not Kobe, Lebron or Wade talent wise. Kobe has a lethal jumper that makes him almost unguardable on iso and Lebron/Wade can get into the paint at will. 2. Yao not as good as the management hoped him to be, he is not Shaq or Duncan talent wise. Yao is neither strong nor quick enough to counter the fronting and dominate the inside like Shaq and Ducan. He's also a inferior defender and much worse rebounder. 3. Yao & Mac are both injury prone and neither is a good leader. Maybe they know by heart that they're not that good to carry a team to championship, at least not as good as they were hyped to be. They had a poor supporting cast, true. But if they're good enough, don't you think they would have gotten into the 2nd round at least once (2005 & 2007)even with players like Bowen/Alston playing major minutes?
No they couldn't. If you look at all the good teams that make through the playoffs its never just two players. Look at the shooting percentages of the rest of the team. They just didnt turn up, ever
Wow. Why do fans completely forget the start of the decade? There's no doubt T-Mac had the talent to match those guys. Scoring champion twice and top 5 PPG in the playoffs ever. He had the talent. Whether he made the most out of it is another issue.
T-Mac himself put the grave over him when the time count he would give the ball to other player beside him i'm not talking in a game 7 45 pts preformance i'm talking about after the 45 pts / the last minutes of the game he just disaper if that game depend on a crucial play he's not there for example i would recal the 13 pts in less than a minute he rise to the ocasion he wants to win that game in the play off series game 7 he was just the player with scoring abilities
T-Mac's relatively healthy years as a Rocket: 04-05 25.7 on 43.1% 06-07 24.6 on 43.6% 07-08 21.6 on 41.9% career average: 22.1 on 43.6% Two-time scoring champ as a Magic: 32.1 on 45.7% 28.0 on 41.7% LeBron James career average: 27.5 on 47.1% One-time scoring champ: 30.0 on 48.4% Dwyane Wade career average: 25.2 on 48.3% One-time scoring champ: 30.2 on 49.1% Kobe Bryant career average: 25.1 on 45.5% One-time scoring champ: 35.4 on 45.0% I wouldn't put T-Mac in the same class with those guys. They're just more efficient. I explained in my previous post why those three guys have more talent.
And about the points T-Mac dropped in the playoffs. Exactly. I'm not saying T-Mac is not good, he is just not as good as Kobe/LeBron/Wade. I never meant to discredit McGrady because he was the best player on the Rockets. By no means I was degrading your hero.
LeBron James sure got there with a 'questionable' supporting cast. He got to the NBA Finals in his fourth year. Yeah he lost to the Spurs, but getting there is the first step. See - Magic Johnson, Akeem the Dream, Isiah Thomas, etc
I never said Yao was not at fault, but as mentioned before, his era is not ending. Enough with the "IFs" that's what those twackers love to sing. I gave all of you plenty of options to blame, but bottom line, this Tmac era is a failure. You can point out yao's problems against boozer, but as Brooksball mentioned before, your top scorer should be your closer. You think Rocket fans would rather talk about all the championships Tmac brought to the city of Houston? too bad that's a NBA2K10 season on easy, not reality. this era is a FAILURE. I hope you figured that part out. the other part is why do you think it was a failure, not why you think a hypothetical situation would work.
Only once later in Utah, however, they were not both healthy. Yao had just returned right before the playoffs started from an injury.
I swear some of you Tmac fans live in some fake alternate reality. This ain't Avatar, and you aren't on Tmacdora. Yao played in the ENTIRE FIRST ROUND, therefore he was a main reason for the playoff victory. http://www.clutchfans.net/game.cfm?gameID=3110 Yao Ming played the entire first half as if his fingertips were on fire, hitting 9-9 shots for 24 points, and the Rockets never turned to look back even once, torching the Blazers 108-81 to take a 1-0 series lead in their first round best-of-seven.
Dude plays in the east, and the east only has 4 good teams in it, opposed to the west with 10 good teams..so getting there with a questionable supporting cast is easier when your playing the 6, 7 or 8 seed who had a sub .500 record...cant compare that with t-mac while he was in houston.
